Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750778AbWAPTiK (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:38:10 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751144AbWAPTiK (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:38:10 -0500 Received: from perpugilliam.csclub.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.134.31]:58788 "EHLO perpugilliam.csclub.uwaterloo.ca") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750778AbWAPTiJ (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:38:09 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:38:07 -0500 To: Christopher Friesen Cc: "Arne R. van der Heyde" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, c-d.hailfinger.kernel.2004@gmx.net Subject: Re: no carrier when using forcedeth on MSI K8N Neo4-F Message-ID: <20060116193807.GW18970@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> References: <43C7F35A.9010703@summitinstruments.com> <20060113222647.GB18972@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> <43C82BD5.2050904@nortel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43C82BD5.2050904@nortel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1051 Lines: 30 On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 04:38:13PM -0600, Christopher Friesen wrote: > Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > >Gigabit does NOT use cross over cables. > > I don't think this is always true. Some gigabit ports can autosense > polarity and are able to use standard cables. Others require gigabit > crossover cables. Hmm, it appears you are right. I have never seen a non autosensing gigabit port, so I thought it was part of the spec. Given the pairs all send and receive already it seemed like an obvious part to include in the spec. Certainly a cross over cable made for 10/100 mbit won't work. It needs the other two pairs swapped to. Most store bought cross over cables seem to only have 10/100mbit in mind when they were made. Proper pinout appears to be: 1 <-> 3 2 <-> 6 4 <-> 7 5 <-> 8 Len Sorensen - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/