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From:   Karol Herbst <kherbst@redhat.com>
Date:   Thu, 21 Nov 2019 13:52:57 +0100
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] pci: prevent putting nvidia GPUs into lower device
 states on certain intel bridges
To:     Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@intel.com>
Cc:     "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
        Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
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        Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com>,
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On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 12:46 PM Mika Westerberg
<mika.westerberg@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 12:34:22PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 12:28 PM Mika Westerberg
> > <mika.westerberg@intel.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 11:29:33PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > > > last week or so I found systems where the GPU was under the "PCI
> > > > > Express Root Port" (name from lspci) and on those systems all of =
that
> > > > > seems to work. So I am wondering if it's indeed just the 0x1901 o=
ne,
> > > > > which also explains Mikas case that Thunderbolt stuff works as de=
vices
> > > > > never get populated under this particular bridge controller, but =
under
> > > > > those "Root Port"s
> > > >
> > > > It always is a PCIe port, but its location within the SoC may matte=
r.
> > >
> > > Exactly. Intel hardware has PCIe ports on CPU side (these are called
> > > PEG, PCI Express Graphics, ports), and the PCH side. I think the IP i=
s
> > > still the same.
> > >

yeah, I meant the bridge controller with the ID 0x1901 is on the CPU
side. And if the Nvidia GPU is on a port on the PCH side it all seems
to work just fine.

> > > > Also some custom AML-based power management is involved and that ma=
y
> > > > be making specific assumptions on the configuration of the SoC and =
the
> > > > GPU at the time of its invocation which unfortunately are not known=
 to
> > > > us.
> > > >
> > > > However, it looks like the AML invoked to power down the GPU from
> > > > acpi_pci_set_power_state() gets confused if it is not in PCI D0 at
> > > > that point, so it looks like that AML tries to access device memory=
 on
> > > > the GPU (beyond the PCI config space) or similar which is not
> > > > accessible in PCI power states below D0.
> > >
> > > Or the PCI config space of the GPU when the parent root port is in D3=
hot
> > > (as it is the case here). Also then the GPU config space is not
> > > accessible.
> >
> > Why would the parent port be in D3hot at that point?  Wouldn't that be
> > a suspend ordering violation?
>
> No. We put the GPU into D3hot first, then the root port and then turn
> off the power resource (which is attached to the root port) resulting
> the topology entering D3cold.
>

If the kernel does a D0 -> D3hot -> D0 cycle this works as well, but
the power savings are way lower, so I kind of prefer skipping D3hot
instead of D3cold. Skipping D3hot doesn't seem to make any difference
in power savings in my testing.

> > > I took a look at the HP Omen ACPI tables which has similar problem an=
d
> > > there is also check for Windows 7 (but not Linux) so I think one
> > > alternative workaround would be to add these devices into
> > > acpi_osi_dmi_table[] where .callback is set to dmi_disable_osi_win8 (=
or
> > > pass 'acpi_osi=3D"!Windows 2012"' in the kernel command line).
> >
> > I'd like to understand the facts that have been established so far
> > before deciding what to do about them. :-)
>
> Yes, I agree :)
>

Yeah.. and I think those would be too many as we know of several
models with this laptops from Lenovo, Dell and HP and random other
models from random other OEMs. I think we won't ever be able to
blacklist all models if we go that way as those might be just way too
many. Also I know from some reports on bumblebee bugs (hitting the
same issue essentially) that the acpi_osi overwrite didn't help every
user.