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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q7si6783730ejn.26.2019.11.26.04.42.01; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 04:42:26 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728137AbfKZLdj (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 26 Nov 2019 06:33:39 -0500 Received: from mx3.molgen.mpg.de ([141.14.17.11]:39289 "EHLO mx1.molgen.mpg.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727218AbfKZLdj (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Nov 2019 06:33:39 -0500 Received: from keineahnung.molgen.mpg.de (keineahnung.molgen.mpg.de [141.14.17.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: pmenzel) by mx.molgen.mpg.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E2E0820643CCA; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 12:33:33 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: USB devices on Dell TB16 dock stop working after resuming To: Mathias Nyman , Mika Westerberg Cc: Mario Limonciello , Andreas Noever , Michael Jamet , Yehezkel Bernat , Christian Kellner , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Anthony Wong References: <20191104154446.GH2552@lahna.fi.intel.com> <20191104162103.GI2552@lahna.fi.intel.com> <20191120105048.GY11621@lahna.fi.intel.com> <20191122105012.GD11621@lahna.fi.intel.com> <20191122112921.GF11621@lahna.fi.intel.com> <20191122114108.GG11621@lahna.fi.intel.com> From: Paul Menzel Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 12:33:33 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms010400070009090700090400" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010400070009090700090400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Mathias, On 2019-11-25 10:20, Mathias Nyman wrote: > On 22.11.2019 13.41, Mika Westerberg wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:33:44PM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: >>> On 2019-11-22 12:29, Mika Westerberg wrote: >>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:05:13PM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: >>> >>>>> On 2019-11-22 11:50, Mika Westerberg wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 12:50:53PM +0200, Mika Westerberg wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 05:55:43PM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2019-11-04 17:21, Mika Westerberg wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 05:11:10PM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-04 16:49, Mario.Limonciello@dell.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Mika Westerberg >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 9:45 AM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 04:44:40PM +0200, Mika Westerberg wr= ote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 04:25:03PM +0200, Mika Westerberg w= rote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 02:13:13PM +0100, Paul Menzel wrot= e: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the Dell XPS 13 9380 with Debian Sid/unstable with Lin= ux 5.3.7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspending the system, and resuming with Dell=E2=80=99s T= hunderbolt TB16 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dock connected, the USB input devices, keyboard and mouse= , >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connected to the TB16 stop working. They work for a few s= econds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (mouse cursor can be moved), but then stop working. The l= aptop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard and touchpad still works fine. All firmware is u= p-to-date >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to `fwupdmgr`. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are the exact steps to reproduce? Just "echo mem > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /sys/power/state" and then resume by pressing power button= ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> GNOME Shell 3.34.1+git20191024-1 is used, and the user just cl= oses the >>>>>>>>>> display. So more than `echo mem > /sys/power/state` is done. W= hat >>>>>>>>>> distribution do you use? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have buildroot based "distro" so there is no UI running. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hmm, this is quite different from the =E2=80=9Cnormal=E2=80=9D u= se-case of the these devices. >>>>>>>> That way you won=E2=80=99t hit the bugs of the normal users. ;-)= >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, I can install some distro to that thing also :) I suppose D= ebian >>>>>>> 10.2 does have this issue, no? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried v5.4-rc6 on my 9380 with TB16 dock connected and di= d a couple of >>>>>>>>>>>>> suspend/resume cycles (to s2idle) but I don't see any issue= s. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I may have older/different firmware than you, though. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Upgraded BIOS to 1.8.0 and TBT NVM to v44 but still can't re= produce this >>>>>>>>>>>> on my system :/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The user reported the issue with the previous firmwares 1.x an= d TBT NVM v40. >>>>>>>>>> Updating to the recent version (I got the logs with) did not f= ix the issue. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I also tried v40 (that was originally on that system) but I was= not able >>>>>>>>> to reproduce it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do you know if the user changed any BIOS settings? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We had to disable the Thunderbolt security settings as otherwise= the USB >>>>>>>> devices wouldn=E2=80=99t work at cold boot either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That does not sound right at all. There is the preboot ACL that a= llows >>>>>>> you to use TBT dock aready on boot. Bolt takes care of this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are you talking about USB devices connected to the TB16 dock? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also are you connecting the TB16 dock to the Thunderbolt ports (l= eft >>>>>>> side of the system marked with small lightning logo) or to the no= rmal >>>>>>> Type-C ports (right side)? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, I built Linux 5.4-rc8 (`make bindeb-pkg -j8`), but unfortuna= tely the >>>>>>>> error is still there. Sometimes, re-plugging the dock helped, an= d sometimes >>>>>>>> it did not. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please find the logs attached. The strange thing is, the Linux k= ernel detects >>>>>>>> the devices and I do not see any disconnect events. But, `lsusb`= does not list >>>>>>>> the keyboard and the mouse. Is that expected. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm bit confused. Can you describe the exact steps what you do (s= o I can >>>>>>> replicate them). >>>>>> >>>>>> I managed to reproduce following scenario. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Boot the system up to UI >>>>>> 2. Connect TB16 dock (and see that it gets authorized by bolt) >>>>>> 3. Connect keyboard and mouse to the TB16 dock >>>>>> 4. Both mouse and keyboard are functional >>>>>> 5. Enter s2idle by closing laptop lid >>>>>> 6. Exit s2idle by opening the laptop lid >>>>>> 7. After ~10 seconds or so the mouse or keyboard or both do not wo= rk >>>>>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 anymore. They do not respond but they are still= "present". >>>>>> >>>>>> The above does not happen always but from time to time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this the scenario you see as well? >>>>> >>>>> Yes, it is. Though I=E2=80=99d say it=E2=80=99s only five seconds o= r so. >>>>> >>>>>> This is on Ubuntu 19.10 with the 5.3 stock kernel. >>>>> >>>>> =E2=80=9Cstock=E2=80=9D in upstream=E2=80=99s or Ubuntu=E2=80=99s? >>>> >>>> It is Ubuntu's. >>>> >>>>>> I can get them work again by unplugging them and plugging back (le= aving >>>>>> the TBT16 dock connected). Also if you run lspci when the problem >>>>>> occurs it still shows the dock so PCIe link stays up. >>>>> >>>>> Re-connecting the USB devices does not help here, but I still suspe= ct it=E2=80=99s >>>>> the same issue. >>>> >>>> Yeah, sounds like so. Did you try to connect the device (mouse, >>>> keyboard) to another USB port? >>> >>> I do not think I did, but I can=E2=80=99t remember. Next week would b= e the next chance >>> to test this. >>> >>>>> Yesterday, I had my hand on a Dell XPS 13 7390 (10th Intel generati= on) and >>>>> tried it with the shipped Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. There, the problem was = not >>>>> always reproducible, but it still happened. Sometimes, only one of = the USB >>>>> device (either keyboard or mouse) stopped working. >>>> >>>> I suppose this is also with the TB16 dock connected, correct? >>> >>> Correct. >>> >>> Can I ask again, how the USB devices connected to the dock can be lis= ted on >>> the command line? lsusb needs to be adapted for that or is a differen= t >>> mechanism needed? >> >> The TB16 dock has ASMEDIA xHCI controller, which is PCIe device so you= >> can see it by running lsusb and looking at the devices under that >> controller. I think maybe 'lsusb -t' is helpful. >> >> The xHCI controller itself you can see by running lspci. >=20 > I got traces from the ASMedia xHC controller in the TB16 dock. Nice. Thank you for looking into that. How can these traces be captured? > There are issues with split transactions between the ASMedia host and t= he 7 port > High speed hub built in to the dock. >=20 > host reports a split transaction error for mouse or keyboard full-speed= /low-speed > interrupt transactions. Endpoint doesn't recover after resetting it. >=20 > Split transaction allows full- and low-speed devices to be attached to = high-speed > hubs, and are used only between the host and the HS hub. A transaction = translator (TT) > in the HS hub will translate the high-speed split transactions on its u= pstream port to > low/full speed transactions on the downstream port. >=20 > I'll see if there are any xHC parameters driver is setting that trigger= these > split transaction errors to trigger more easy. I always wonder how Microsoft Windows driver do it. Mario, should I contact the Dell support regarding this issue? 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