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[209.85.208.180]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d24sm7059839lja.82.2019.12.06.13.23.11 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Dec 2019 13:23:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lj1-f180.google.com with SMTP id j6so9184803lja.2 for ; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 13:23:11 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a2e:86c4:: with SMTP id n4mr5352792ljj.97.1575667391454; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 13:23:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9044bad02aa6553cdb2523294500b50fccf3fd2a.camel@wdc.com> <81530734312456aab8b9625d7e9bb071c43db1c5.camel@wdc.com> <84c4ee600c0dd235a0fcc257115807af7207b5f6.camel@wdc.com> <99bbf5710da82c8b52e59ad5fc4e44471573ecd3.camel@wdc.com> <3286a00cb9c8033872f533ec3e7f3db3e652c30c.camel@wdc.com> In-Reply-To: From: Linus Torvalds Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 13:22:55 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Second set of RISC-V updates for v5.5-rc1 To: Anup Patel Cc: Carlos Eduardo de Paula , Alistair Francis , "paul.walmsley@sifive.com" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Atish Patra , "linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org" , "hch@lst.de" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:15 PM Anup Patel wrote: > > Better approach is to have a fragmented .config for extra DEBUG options. Guys, stop this silly thread already. The fact is, defconfig is useful for basic smoke testing - automated compile and boot testing, and getting perhaps random people to test something. But it is not appropriate for a distro to use. Anybody who makes that argument is wrong. If you actually know what you are doing, the defconfig is entirely irrelevant, and no, trying to make special debug fragments isn't going to make it more so. So if you are a RISC-V distro: stop using the defconfig. You shouldn't have used it in the first place. It's not meant to be a usable one. And no, don't start making "more defconfigs". We've had that mess too. It's broken too. If you are a distro maintainer and you cannot be bothered to make your own config file, then you should just stop being a distro maintainer, and maybe take up farming instead. Right now you guys are just wasting everybody elses time. Stop it. Or at least remove me from the cc, because I'm not interested in this whiny "I'm too lazy to maintain my own config, and I _insist_ that the defconfig is meant only for me". Linus