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References: <20191206184536.2507-1-linux.amoon@gmail.com> <724aa7db-3838-16f9-d344-1789ae2a5746@arm.com> From: Robin Murphy Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 13:58:21 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux aarch64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 09/12/2019 1:37 pm, Peter Geis wrote: > On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 8:29 AM Robin Murphy wrote: >> >> On 06/12/2019 6:45 pm, Anand Moon wrote: >>> Most of the RK3399 SBC boards do not perform clean >>> shutdown and clean reboot. >> >> FWIW reboot problems on RK3399 have been tracked down to issues in >> upstream ATF, and are unrelated to the PMIC. >> >>> These patches try to help resolve the issue with proper >>> shutdown by turning off the PMIC. >> >> As mentioned elsewhere[1], although this is what the BSP kernel seems to >> do, and in practice it's unlikely to matter for the majority of devboard >> users like you and me, I still feel a bit uncomfortable with this >> solution for systems using ATF as in principle the secure world might >> want to know about orderly shutdowns, and this effectively makes every >> shutdown an unexpected power loss from secure software's point of view. >> >> Robin. > > Since ATF is operating completely in volatile memory, and shouldn't be > touching hardware once it passes off control to the kernel anyways, > what is the harm of pulling the rug out from under it? > If this idea is to prevent issues in the future, such as if ATF does > gain the ability to preempt hardware control, then at that time ATF > will need to be able to handle actually powering off devices using the > same functionality. It's not ATF itself I'm concerned about, but arbitrary Secure EL1 payloads. In theory, a TEE might want to do something like cycle keys or log events in a TPM (or just encrypted in an external SPI flash), or scrub secure DRAM for cold boot protection. I'm pretty sure none of us are running such a thing on our boards today, but an upstream solution really wants to be robust for the general case. > But as we discussed previously, ATF doesn't have this capability, so > in this case any board without a dedicated power-off gpio will be > unable to power off at all. > Also it seems that giving ATF this functionality, with the current > state of ATF, would be cost prohibitive. > > I personally feel that allowing the kernel to do this is a solution to > the problem we have now. Sure - I do like your cool idea of using a custom reboot reason to handle a 'trusted' poweroff in the U-Boot SPL - but in the meantime anything would be a practical improvement over the current situation. I reckon this other patch[1] (this seems to be a popular issue all of a sudden!) looks like the neatest interim step. Robin. [1] http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-rockchip/2019-December/028245.html >>> For reference >>> RK805 PMCI data sheet: >>> [0] http://rockchip.fr/RK805%20datasheet%20V1.3.pdf >>> RK808 PMIC data sheet: >>> [1] http://rockchip.fr/RK808%20datasheet%20V1.4.pdf >>> RK817 PMIC data sheet: >>> [2] http://rockchip.fr/RK817%20datasheet%20V1.01.pdf >>> RK818 PMIC data sheet: >>> [3] http://rockchip.fr/RK818%20datasheet%20V1.0.pdf >>> >>> Reboot issue: >>> My guess is that we need to some proper sequence of >>> setting to PMCI to perform clean. >>> >>> If you have any input please share them. >>> >>> Tested on SBC >>> Rock960 Model A >>> Odroid N1 >>> Rock64 >>> >>> -Anand Moon >>> >>> Anand Moon (8): >>> mfd: rk808: Refactor shutdown functions >>> mfd: rk808: use syscore for RK805 PMIC shutdown >>> mfd: rk808: use syscore for RK808 PMIC shutdown >>> mfd: rk808: use syscore for RK818 PMIC shutdown >>> mfd: rk808: cleanup unused function pointer >>> mfd: rk808: use common syscore for all PMCI for clean shutdown >>> arm64: rockchip: drop unused field from rk8xx i2c node >>> arm: rockchip: drop unused field from rk8xx i2c node >>> >>> arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3036-kylin.dts | 1 - >>> arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3188-px3-evb.dts | 1 - >>> arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3288-evb-rk808.dts | 1 - >>> arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3288-phycore-som.dtsi | 1 - >>> arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3288-popmetal.dts | 1 - >>> arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3288-tinker.dtsi | 1 - >>> arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3288-veyron.dtsi | 1 - >>> arch/arm/boot/dts/rk3288-vyasa.dts | 1 - >>> arch/arm/boot/dts/rv1108-elgin-r1.dts | 1 - >>> arch/arm/boot/dts/rv1108-evb.dts | 1 - >>> arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/px30-evb.dts | 1 - >>> arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3328-a1.dts | 1 - >>> arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3328-evb.dts | 1 - >>> .../arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3328-roc-cc.dts | 1 - >>> .../arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3328-rock64.dts | 1 - >>> .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3368-geekbox.dts | 1 - >>> arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3368-lion.dtsi | 1 - >>> .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3368-px5-evb.dts | 1 - >>> .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-firefly.dts | 1 - >>> .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-hugsun-x99.dts | 1 - >>> .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-khadas-edge.dtsi | 1 - >>> .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-leez-p710.dts | 1 - >>> .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-nanopi4.dtsi | 1 - >>> .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-orangepi.dts | 1 - >>> arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-puma.dtsi | 1 - >>> .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-roc-pc.dtsi | 1 - >>> .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-rock-pi-4.dts | 1 - >>> .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-rock960.dtsi | 1 - >>> .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-rockpro64.dts | 1 - >>> .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-sapphire.dtsi | 1 - >>> drivers/mfd/rk808.c | 144 +++++------------- >>> include/linux/mfd/rk808.h | 2 - >>> 32 files changed, 42 insertions(+), 134 deletions(-) >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-rockchip mailing list >> Linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org >> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-rockchip