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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id z194si3556710oia.50.2019.12.12.09.18.35; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 09:18:49 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=default header.b=EWuay0I8; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1730176AbfLLRQh (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 12 Dec 2019 12:16:37 -0500 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:57952 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1730040AbfLLRQh (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Dec 2019 12:16:37 -0500 Received: from willie-the-truck (236.31.169.217.in-addr.arpa [217.169.31.236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 93FE3205C9; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 17:16:34 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1576170996; bh=hCIUUjoV9LDxYFfpfhgTZKOW9fzOYuAszkQqCpfyxqI=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=EWuay0I819XqGuvOSsknn0d9k75Vn8g4VG3BHr2E2DN4rsyF1Ff5RAOgMHPgzFwtc 8Na0syFuMwf74TW1Aod2SFGjufh5djkZ7Y9bO46PbSsdR7iP3IfPKFNvfs/9sqAhyU WdC0UAGaNcw5F5Lq+ZtVZ6pmlyL17XIKquJFBPPY= Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 17:16:31 +0000 From: Will Deacon To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Michael Ellerman , Linus Torvalds , dja@axtens.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, christophe.leroy@c-s.fr, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Mark Rutland , Segher Boessenkool , Arnd Bergmann , Christian Borntraeger Subject: Re: READ_ONCE() + STACKPROTECTOR_STRONG == :/ (was Re: [GIT PULL] Please pull powerpc/linux.git powerpc-5.5-2 tag (topic/kasan-bitops)) Message-ID: <20191212171630.GC16364@willie-the-truck> References: <87blslei5o.fsf@mpe.ellerman.id.au> <20191206131650.GM2827@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <875zimp0ay.fsf@mpe.ellerman.id.au> <20191212080105.GV2844@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20191212100756.GA11317@willie-the-truck> <20191212104610.GW2827@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20191212170427.GA16364@willie-the-truck> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20191212170427.GA16364@willie-the-truck> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 05:04:27PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote: > On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 11:46:10AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 10:07:56AM +0000, Will Deacon wrote: > > > > > > So your proposed change _should_ be fine. Will, I'm assuming you never > > > > saw this on your ARGH64 builds when you did this code ? > > > > > > I did see it, but (a) looking at the code out-of-line makes it look a lot > > > worse than it actually is (so the ext4 example is really helpful -- thanks > > > Michael!) and (b) I chalked it up to a crappy compiler. > > > > > > However, see this comment from Arnd on my READ_ONCE series from the other > > > day: > > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAK8P3a0f=WvSQSBQ4t0FmEkcFE_mC3oARxaeTviTSkSa-D2qhg@mail.gmail.com > > > > > > In which case, I'm thinking that we should be doing better in READ_ONCE() > > > for non-buggy compilers which would also keep the KCSAN folks happy for this > > > code (and would help with [1] too). > > > > So something like this then? Although I suppose that should be moved > > into compiler-gcc.h and then guarded by #ifndef READ_ONCE or so. > > Ah wait, I think we've been looking at this wrong. The volatile pointer > argument is actually the problem here, not READ_ONCE()! The use of typeof() > means that the temporary variable to which __READ_ONCE_SIZE writes ends up > being a volatile store, so it can't be optimised away. This is why we get > a stack access and why stack protector then wrecks the codegen for us. Hmm, it's actually probably the volatile read which is causing the problem, since __READ_ONCE_SIZE has casted that away and just uses "void *", but you get the idea. Will