Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030409AbWAXJLa (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 Jan 2006 04:11:30 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030410AbWAXJLa (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 Jan 2006 04:11:30 -0500 Received: from ns.firmix.at ([62.141.48.66]:43649 "EHLO ns.firmix.at") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030409AbWAXJL3 (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 Jan 2006 04:11:29 -0500 Subject: Re: GPL V3 and Linux From: Bernd Petrovitsch To: Ian Kester-Haney Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <441e43c90601231755qaddb557r7f102d9c1f79ad5@mail.gmail.com> References: <200601212043.k0LKhG4w003290@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> <87ek2y8n1f.fsf@basilikum.skogtun.org> <441e43c90601231755qaddb557r7f102d9c1f79ad5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: http://www.firmix.at/ Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:10:21 +0100 Message-Id: <1138093821.4620.20.camel@gimli.at.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3172 Lines: 71 On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 19:55 -0600, Ian Kester-Haney wrote: [...] > Copyright for one work is set forward in law. My view is that Artists > and their sponsors deserve > the right to prevent piracy. In my view the Open Source Community Of course and ATM there are - at least in the free world - more than enough possibilities to punish "piracy" of copied copyrighted work. The whole DRM (which actually shopuld be read as "Digital Restrictions Management") and "against copyright piracy" campaign is to take away legal rights like "playing a legallay produced and bought DVD as often was you wish" and to limit you to "view it at most 3 times and disallow any copy - expecially legal ones". > have an incompatible attitude. In my mind the buying of a DVD means > that I watch it on DVD players be it on my computer or on the TV. > while I beleive that I should be able to watch my DVDs on a linux > based system, it behooves the open source community to support it in a > legal way. Cracking Access Control Sytems might be fun, but it only The copyright-industry to-be-implemented access control is in fact illegal. > generates huge controversy in concerned industries. An Open Source Yes, because the concerned industries ignored the develoment in last 20 years. And they don't like certain aspects and rights of e.g. continental European laws (yes, copying music CDs privately and giving them away as a birthday present is completely *legal* hereover. We actually *pay* for this right with ~40 eurocent per writable medium since decades, i.e. since music tapes were young and paper copying machines were very expensive). > Access Control System that is respected by the FOSS community would be > a great diplomatic way to allow for more access to content. My You are listening and beliving to the propaganda too much. > personal view is that copying for my own personal use is ok, however > the converting of such material in a way not granted to me by the > Creator is not ethical. Richard Stallman is painting himself into a The creator (if you mean the artist) and the above mentioned "concerned industries" are two different things. And you probably have at the moment far more rights to copy for your private use than you know - and this is at stake. The strategic problem, that DRM has is: It doesn't hurt (or even apply to) the big commercial (and thus illegal) copying organizations. And - at least as far I the propaganda read - are the big evils. The only target is the private consumer. Do you want to pay 1$ for every time you hear a song? Think of DVDs/CDs which *require* Internet access (next generation game console will deliver that probably) and a (properly filled) PayPal account. > corner in this way. Bernd -- Firmix Software GmbH http://www.firmix.at/ mobil: +43 664 4416156 fax: +43 1 7890849-55 Embedded Linux Development and Services - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/