Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:48:40 +0100
From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Joerg Schilling <schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>
Cc: matthias.andree@gmx.de, rlrevell@joe-job.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
       jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de
Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest)
Message-ID: <20060126094839.GQ4212@suse.de>
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On Thu, Jan 26 2006, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> > I think we'd better call the whole discussion off.
> 
> Let me come back to this again and give an important statement...
> 
> 	If this mailing list is not the place where to 
> 	make architectural design decisions, then we really better 
> 	should stop this discussion immediately as it then would be useless.
> 
> 	Please inform me about this fact in case you know more as I really
> 	don't have time to waste with useless discussions.
> 
> 
> It seems also required to give some background information:
> 
> Without Matthias, I would already never again answered any mail from
> LKML as all previous experiences on this list have been a desaster. It
> did usually take less than an hour until someone from the list did
> start personal attacks.  The last two times, the discussion has been
> made impossible because Jens Axboe started with personal infringements
> and his obvious false claims.
> 
> This time, it did look really promising until Jens Axboe again started
> with personal infringements. I have to admit that it would have been
> better to ignore him from the very beginning, but I was in false hope
> that he could have changed.
> 
> Let me make a proposal: I try to answer mail from people who send
> useful contributions to the discussion and I will ignore anybody who
> starts with personal infringements. I will try to reply to mails with
> incorrect claims if they are not obvious but I will stop replying to
> the same person if he continues with things that are incorrect.

What is this, kindergarten? What false claims have I made? I pointed out
several you made, to which you had no rebuttal. Then you start playing
"Jens made obviously false claims", huh?? I've had more mature
conversations with my 1 year old son.

I'm sorry if you feel that me refuting your false statements are
personal attacks. Clearly not a problem that can be fixed at my end.
Ignoring facts and continuing to write the same wrong claims over and
over again doesn't make them true in the end.

Please take me off the cc list, thanks.

-- 
Jens Axboe

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