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Date:   Tue, 14 Jan 2020 12:25:38 +0100
From:   Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To:     Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>
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On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 11:17:25PM -0500, Arvind Sankar wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 07:08:26PM +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 12:59:38PM -0500, Arvind Sankar wrote:
> > > How is "breaks with binutils before version 2.23" not clear enough? It
> > 
> > Nevermind, I'll write it myself if/when I end up applying some version
> > of it. I've wasted enough time trying to get my point across.
> > 
> 
> You're wasting time, because you're not _listening_ to the other guy.

FFS you're still missing the point: the question is whether this
is a widespread issue - a distro shipping this funky binutils and
therefore it being a problem on potentially more than one environment -
or something people can only trigger by *specially* building themselves
and thus a lot more seldom occurrence.

And I've answered the question myself by booting openSUSE 12.1 - i.e.,
at least one distro has it.

And regardless, so what if you add some more text to the commit message?
Are you afraid that you'll over-describe the issue? Hell, you've typed
more just in debating this.

And let me tell you why it is a good thing to have more detailed
explanations in commit messages: when you move on and go do something
else, all that is left is a commit message for maintainers to do git
archaeology on and scratch heads as to why stuff was done the way it was.

And this happens very often: read a oneliner commit message and go find
a crystal ball to figure out what the author meant.

And I told you that *I* will write it myself and you wouldn't have to do
diddly squat. And yet you still can't let it go!

So you can debate all you want - you won't change my mind about wanting
to have stuff explained in detail in commit messages.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette