Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932257AbWA3NWd (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:22:33 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932256AbWA3NWd (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:22:33 -0500 Received: from [212.76.87.221] ([212.76.87.221]:12548 "EHLO raad.intranet") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932254AbWA3NW1 (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:22:27 -0500 From: Al Boldi To: Bryan Henderson Subject: Re: [RFC] VM: I have a dream... Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:21:24 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200601301621.24051.a1426z@gawab.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1858 Lines: 48 Bryan Henderson wrote: > >> So we know it [single level storage] works, but also that people don't > >> seem to care much for it > > > People didn't care, because the AS/400 was based on a proprietary > > solution. > > I don't know what a "proprietary solution" is, but what we had was a > complete demonstration of the value of single level storage, in commercial > use and everything, and other computer makers (and other business units > of IBM) stuck with their memory/disk split personality. For 25 years, > lots of computer makers developed lots of new computer architectures and > they all (practically speaking) had the memory/disk split. There has to > be a lesson in that. Sure there is lesson here. People have a tendency to resist change, even though they know the current way is faulty. > > With todays generically mass-produced 64bit archs, what's not to care > > about a cost-effective system that provides direct mapped access into > > linear address space? > > I don't know; I'm sure it's complicated. Why would you think that the shortest path between two points is complicated, when you have the ability to fly? > But unless the stumbling block > since 1980 has been that it was too hard to get/make a CPU with a 64 bit > address space, I don't see what's different today. You are hitting the nail right on it's head here. Nothing moves the masses like mass-production. So with 64bits widely available now, and to let Linux spread its wings and really fly, how could tmpfs merged w/ swap be tweaked to provide direct mapped access into this linear address space? Thanks! -- Al - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/