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Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:58:51 -0500
From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
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To: Joerg Schilling <schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>
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Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest)
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Well, you need to implement 30 (or so) platform-specific ways to get a
>>list of devices, and portable applications aren't going to do that. To
>>make it explicit: no way. It is a maintenance nightmare, 30 lowly-tested
>>pieces of code, too.
> 
> 
> It already works in libscg since nearly 10 years.
> 
> 
>>This sounds like a huge difference, but I don't believe it actually is.
>>J?rg is trying to fight the system rather than stop complaining to users
>>about their using /dev/hd*. The scanning code is there and can be made
>>working with little effort probably.
> 
> 
> Talking about /dev/hd* ignore the basic problem. Show me a way how to
> send SCSI commands to a ATAPI tape drive on Linux. 
> 
> Please do not forget that libscg is OS _and_ device independent.
> Implementing /dev/hd* support at all is already a concession that did go to far.

You added the feature, and a message that it was accidental and 
unsupported. In truth is was neither, and your little message pisses off 
developers and scares casual users.

-- 
    -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com)
"The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the
  last possible moment - but no longer"  -me
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