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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id u25si15097111otg.170.2020.01.17.01.58.07; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 01:58:19 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726513AbgAQJ5D (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 17 Jan 2020 04:57:03 -0500 Received: from mx3.molgen.mpg.de ([141.14.17.11]:35287 "EHLO mx1.molgen.mpg.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726053AbgAQJ5D (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Jan 2020 04:57:03 -0500 Received: from rabammel.molgen.mpg.de (rabammel.molgen.mpg.de [141.14.30.220]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: pmenzel) by mx.molgen.mpg.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 07ADE2064468F; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 10:56:58 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: USB devices on Dell TB16 dock stop working after resuming To: Mathias Nyman , Mika Westerberg Cc: Mario Limonciello , Andreas Noever , Michael Jamet , Yehezkel Bernat , Christian Kellner , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Anthony Wong References: <20191104154446.GH2552@lahna.fi.intel.com> <20191104162103.GI2552@lahna.fi.intel.com> <20191120105048.GY11621@lahna.fi.intel.com> <20191122105012.GD11621@lahna.fi.intel.com> <20191122112921.GF11621@lahna.fi.intel.com> <20191122114108.GG11621@lahna.fi.intel.com> <4b25e707-d2b5-11d1-4b16-48122828fde7@linux.intel.com> <87670037-8af5-c209-cbf8-70042e0a8fc5@linux.intel.com> From: Paul Menzel Message-ID: <44d8eb12-9af5-7b9a-fa24-be8e8ec3cd48@molgen.mpg.de> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 10:56:57 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87670037-8af5-c209-cbf8-70042e0a8fc5@linux.intel.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms000006020706090005090106" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000006020706090005090106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Mathias, dear Mario, On 2019-12-23 10:39, Mathias Nyman wrote: > On 20.12.2019 16.25, Paul Menzel wrote: >> On 2019-11-26 13:44, Mathias Nyman wrote: >>> On 26.11.2019 13.33, Paul Menzel wrote: >> >>>> On 2019-11-25 10:20, Mathias Nyman wrote: >>>>> On 22.11.2019 13.41, Mika Westerberg wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:33:44PM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> On 2019-11-22 12:29, Mika Westerberg wrote: >>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:05:13PM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-22 11:50, Mika Westerberg wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 12:50:53PM +0200, Mika Westerberg wrot= e: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 05:55:43PM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-04 17:21, Mika Westerberg wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 05:11:10PM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote= : >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-04 16:49, Mario.Limonciello@dell.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Mika Westerberg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 9:45 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 04:44:40PM +0200, Mika Westerber= g wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 04:25:03PM +0200, Mika Westerbe= rg wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 02:13:13PM +0100, Paul Menzel = wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the Dell XPS 13 9380 with Debian Sid/unstable with= Linux 5.3.7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspending the system, and resuming with Dell=E2=80=99= s Thunderbolt TB16 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dock connected, the USB input devices, keyboard and m= ouse, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connected to the TB16 stop working. They work for a f= ew seconds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (mouse cursor can be moved), but then stop working. T= he laptop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard and touchpad still works fine. All firmware = is up-to-date >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to `fwupdmgr`. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are the exact steps to reproduce? Just "echo mem = > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /sys/power/state" and then resume by pressing power bu= tton? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> GNOME Shell 3.34.1+git20191024-1 is used, and the user jus= t closes the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> display. So more than `echo mem > /sys/power/state` is don= e. What >>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution do you use? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have buildroot based "distro" so there is no UI running. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, this is quite different from the =E2=80=9Cnormal=E2=80=9D= use-case of the these devices. >>>>>>>>>>>> That way you won=E2=80=99t hit the bugs of the normal users.= ;-) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, I can install some distro to that thing also :) I suppo= se Debian >>>>>>>>>>> 10.2 does have this issue, no? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried v5.4-rc6 on my 9380 with TB16 dock connected an= d did a couple of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspend/resume cycles (to s2idle) but I don't see any i= ssues. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I may have older/different firmware than you, though. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Upgraded BIOS to 1.8.0 and TBT NVM to v44 but still can'= t reproduce this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on my system :/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The user reported the issue with the previous firmwares 1.= x and TBT NVM v40. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Updating to the recent version (I got the logs with) did n= ot fix the issue. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I also tried v40 (that was originally on that system) but I= was not able >>>>>>>>>>>>> to reproduce it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know if the user changed any BIOS settings? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We had to disable the Thunderbolt security settings as other= wise the USB >>>>>>>>>>>> devices wouldn=E2=80=99t work at cold boot either. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That does not sound right at all. There is the preboot ACL th= at allows >>>>>>>>>>> you to use TBT dock aready on boot. Bolt takes care of this. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Are you talking about USB devices connected to the TB16 dock?= >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also are you connecting the TB16 dock to the Thunderbolt port= s (left >>>>>>>>>>> side of the system marked with small lightning logo) or to th= e normal >>>>>>>>>>> Type-C ports (right side)? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So, I built Linux 5.4-rc8 (`make bindeb-pkg -j8`), but unfor= tunately the >>>>>>>>>>>> error is still there. Sometimes, re-plugging the dock helped= , and sometimes >>>>>>>>>>>> it did not. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please find the logs attached. The strange thing is, the Lin= ux kernel detects >>>>>>>>>>>> the devices and I do not see any disconnect events. But, `ls= usb` does not list >>>>>>>>>>>> the keyboard and the mouse. Is that expected. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm bit confused. Can you describe the exact steps what you d= o (so I can >>>>>>>>>>> replicate them). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I managed to reproduce following scenario. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. Boot the system up to UI >>>>>>>>>> 2. Connect TB16 dock (and see that it gets authorized by bolt)= >>>>>>>>>> 3. Connect keyboard and mouse to the TB16 dock >>>>>>>>>> 4. Both mouse and keyboard are functional >>>>>>>>>> 5. Enter s2idle by closing laptop lid >>>>>>>>>> 6. Exit s2idle by opening the laptop lid >>>>>>>>>> 7. After ~10 seconds or so the mouse or keyboard or both do no= t work >>>>>>>>>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 anymore. They do not respond bu= t they are still "present". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The above does not happen always but from time to time. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is this the scenario you see as well? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, it is. Though I=E2=80=99d say it=E2=80=99s only five secon= ds or so. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is on Ubuntu 19.10 with the 5.3 stock kernel. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> =E2=80=9Cstock=E2=80=9D in upstream=E2=80=99s or Ubuntu=E2=80=99= s? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is Ubuntu's. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I can get them work again by unplugging them and plugging back= (leaving >>>>>>>>>> the TBT16 dock connected). Also if you run lspci when the prob= lem >>>>>>>>>> occurs it still shows the dock so PCIe link stays up. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Re-connecting the USB devices does not help here, but I still s= uspect it=E2=80=99s >>>>>>>>> the same issue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeah, sounds like so. Did you try to connect the device (mouse, >>>>>>>> keyboard) to another USB port? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I do not think I did, but I can=E2=80=99t remember. Next week wou= ld be the next chance >>>>>>> to test this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yesterday, I had my hand on a Dell XPS 13 7390 (10th Intel gene= ration) and >>>>>>>>> tried it with the shipped Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. There, the problem = was not >>>>>>>>> always reproducible, but it still happened. Sometimes, only one= of the USB >>>>>>>>> device (either keyboard or mouse) stopped working. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I suppose this is also with the TB16 dock connected, correct? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Correct. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can I ask again, how the USB devices connected to the dock can be= listed on >>>>>>> the command line? lsusb needs to be adapted for that or is a diff= erent >>>>>>> mechanism needed? >>>>>> >>>>>> The TB16 dock has ASMEDIA xHCI controller, which is PCIe device so= you >>>>>> can see it by running lsusb and looking at the devices under that >>>>>> controller. I think maybe 'lsusb -t' is helpful. >>>>>> >>>>>> The xHCI controller itself you can see by running lspci. >>>>> >>>>> I got traces from the ASMedia xHC controller in the TB16 dock. >>>> >>>> Nice. Thank you for looking into that. How can these traces be captu= red? >>> >>> The Linux tracepoints added to the xhci driver can be enabled by: >>> >>> mount -t debugfs none /sys/kernel/debug >>> echo 81920 > /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/buffer_size_kb >>> echo 1 > /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/xhci-hcd/enable >>> < Trigger the issue > >>> >>> Copy traces found in /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/trace >>> >>> Trace file grows fast. >> >>>>> There are issues with split transactions between the ASMedia host a= nd the 7 port >>>>> High speed hub built in to the dock. >>>>> >>>>> host reports a split transaction error for mouse or keyboard full-s= peed/low-speed >>>>> interrupt transactions. Endpoint doesn't recover after resetting it= =2E >>>>> >>>>> Split transaction allows full- and low-speed devices to be attached= to high-speed >>>>> hubs, and are used only between the host and the HS hub. A transact= ion translator (TT) >>>>> in the HS hub will translate the high-speed split transactions on i= ts upstream port to >>>>> low/full speed transactions on the downstream port. >>>>> >>>>> I'll see if there are any xHC parameters driver is setting that tri= gger these >>>>> split transaction errors to trigger more easy. >>>> >>>> I always wonder how Microsoft Windows driver do it. >>>> >>>> Mario, should I contact the Dell support regarding this issue? >> Sorry for bothering, but were you able to find some workaround for >> this issue? >=20 > Unfortunately no, I couldn't find any workaround. > xhci slot and endpoint context values for both the HS hub, and the > full/low speed device seem correct. >=20 > I was able to reproduce the issue with an external HS hub as well, so=C2= =A0 this issue > appears to be more related to ASMedia host than the built in HS hub in = TB16 I contacted the (German) Dell support, and they asked me to update the la= ptop firmware to 1.9.1 claiming that these issues might be fixed there (despit= e the change-log not containing that). Anyway, after the update, the user is st= ill able to reproduce the issue. Mario, what can I do, so the issue is escalated to your team, so you can = work with ASMedia to solve this? 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