Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 06:26:32 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 06:26:22 -0400 Received: from ns.ithnet.com ([217.64.64.10]:62983 "HELO heather.ithnet.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 06:26:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:26:27 +0200 From: Stephan von Krawczynski To: Patrick McFarland Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: VM Message-Id: <20011016122627.110964ec.skraw@ithnet.com> In-Reply-To: <20011015230836.B1314@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20011015211216.A1314@localhost> <9qg46l$378$1@penguin.transmeta.com> <20011015230836.B1314@localhost> Organization: ith Kommunikationstechnik GmbH X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 23:08:38 -0400 Patrick McFarland wrote: > reading what lang wrote, ive been thinking > > Im on the type of machine that swapping the least is most favorable. rik's vm seems that it would be able to swap less, and not swap the wrong things enough of the time. Well, I cannot really comment on who does what based on the code. But I can see the results on my machine(s). And what I see is that the current linus-tree does not swap at all in my environment. Maybe one could say that 1 GB of RAM is a bit oversized for most of my business, but anyway the point I started complaining real loud about the former VM (now residing at -ac tree) was when it came to the point where even my system started to become unusable. I am therefore _very_ thankful to L. that he drew the line (who else could _and_ would have done it?), and Andrea of course for his work. I do not think that Riks work is a piece of bs, really not, but it seems to have an inherent complexity that is _very_ hard to handle. It may well be the proof for the "keep it simple"-strategy to deliver the best results. Anyway we should not see it as a political issue, but a friendly competition. Because in the end, we all want the same: a system we can trust and rely on. There is nothing wrong with having different opinions as long as you can give _some_ proof for it. So if you say current -linus tree does more swapping, please give us some numbers to have a look at. Regards, Stephan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/