Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030392AbWBARv2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Feb 2006 12:51:28 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030394AbWBARv1 (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Feb 2006 12:51:27 -0500 Received: from perpugilliam.csclub.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.134.31]:3201 "EHLO perpugilliam.csclub.uwaterloo.ca") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030392AbWBARv1 (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Feb 2006 12:51:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 12:51:25 -0500 To: Andrew Walrond Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC] VM: I have a dream... Message-ID: <20060201175125.GG18972@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> References: <200601311856.17569.a1426z@gawab.com> <986ed62e0601312006y75748bd9x8925556e979d59c9@mail.gmail.com> <200602010951.08967.andrew@walrond.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200602010951.08967.andrew@walrond.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1714 Lines: 38 On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 09:51:08AM +0000, Andrew Walrond wrote: > In the not-too-distant future, there is likely to be a ram/disk price > inversion; ram becomes cheaper/mb than disk. At that point, we'll be buying > hardware based on "how much disk can I afford to provide power-off backup of > my ram?" rather than "how much ram can I afford?" Hmm... I resently bought a 250GB HD for my machine for $112, which is $0.50/GB or $0.0005/MB. I bought 512M ram for $55. which is $0.10/MB. The ram cost 200 times more per MB than the disk space. In 1992 I got a 245MB HD for a new machine for $500 as far as I recall, which was $2/MB. I got 16MB ram for $800, which was $50/MB. The ram cost 25 times more than the disk space. So just what kind of price trend are you looking at that will let you get ram cheaper than disk space any time soon? There has never been such a trend yet as far as I know. Maybe you have better data than me. My experience shows the other direction. Both memory and disk space are much cheaper than they used to be, but the disk space has reduced in price much faster than memory. > At that point, things will change. Sure, except I don't believe it will ever happen. > Maybe, then, everything _will_ be in ram (with the kernel will intelligently > write out pages to the disk in the background, incase of power failure and > ready for a shutdown). Disk reads only ever occur during a power-on > population of ram. Len Sorensen - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/