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My series > > > first moves it to "Good luck mate, you're on your own" and then follows up > > I wish the actual warning was worded that way. :P > > > > with a "Let me take that off you it's sharp". > > > Oh - and I need to find a newer compiler :-( > > What distro are you using? Does it have a package for a newer > compiler? I'm honestly curious about what policies if any the kernel > has for supporting developer's toolchains from their distributions. > (ie. Arnd usually has pretty good stats what distro's use which > version of GCC and are still supported; Do we strive to not break > them? Is asking kernel devs to compile their own toolchain too much to > ask? Is it still if they're using really old distro's/toolchains that > we don't want to support? Do we survey kernel devs about what they're > using?). Apologies if this is already documented somewhere, but if > not I'd eventually like to brainstorm and write it down somewhere in > the tree. Documentation/process/changes.rst doesn't really answer the > above questions, I think. > > -- > Thanks, > ~Nick Desaulniers Reposting Arnd's link https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-kbuild/msg23648.html Seems like there is nothing still on versions between 4.6 and 4.8. It might be useful to put a list of distro's that are running the current minimum supported toolchain versions in process/changes.rst? I think the issue is not just kernel devs. Users may need to compile a custom kernel or at least build a module.