Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1423431AbWBBJvM (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Feb 2006 04:51:12 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1423428AbWBBJvL (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Feb 2006 04:51:11 -0500 Received: from mailhub.fokus.fraunhofer.de ([193.174.154.14]:48894 "EHLO mailhub.fokus.fraunhofer.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1423429AbWBBJvK (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Feb 2006 04:51:10 -0500 From: Joerg Schilling Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 10:49:33 +0100 To: jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de, bzolnier@gmail.com Cc: schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de, mrmacman_g4@mac.com, matthias.andree@gmx.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, James@superbug.co.uk, j@bitron.ch, acahalan@gmail.com Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Message-ID: <43E1D5AD.nail4MI2R8NR2@burner> References: <787b0d920601241858w375a42efnc780f74b5c05e5d0@mail.gmail.com> <8614E822-9ED1-4CB1-B8F0-7571D1A7767E@mac.com> <43D7B1E7.nailDFJ9MUZ5G@burner> <20060125230850.GA2137@merlin.emma.line.org> <43D8C04F.nailE1C2X9KNC@burner> <43DDFBFF.nail16Z3N3C0M@burner> <1138642683.7404.31.camel@juerg-pd.bitron.ch> <43DF3C3A.nail2RF112LAB@burner> <58cb370e0601310410r46210e8dvc66f631f208e9b8d@mail.gmail.com> <43DF678E.nail3B431CUWJ@burner> <58cb370e0601310623ic220d27q3bfd4642cd0538fb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.2 8/15/04 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1325 Lines: 31 Jan Engelhardt wrote: > Which unfortunately leads us back to one of the early questions. > > If ATAPI is some sort of SCSI [command set] over ATA, and ide-cd can be used > without the "Big Bad" SCSI layer (CONFIG_SCSI), don't we have redundant code > floating around? CONFIG_SCSI??? Why not using fully dynamical loadable kernel modules as done with Solaris since 1992? Since that time nobody cares because what you need is auto-loaded on demand and there is absolutely no need for a manual configuration. BTW: Introducing an orthogonal SCSI based implementation would save a lot of code. The model currently used on Linux is duplicating a lot of unneeded code in target drivers and the SCSI glue code is only a few KB (less than 30k on Solaris). J?rg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/