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Date:   Fri, 24 Jan 2020 08:29:40 +0100
From:   Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To:     "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] dynamic_debug: allow to work if debugfs is disabled
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On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 01:02:00AM -0500, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 06:55:36PM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > Instead of moving the control file IFF debugfs is enabled, what about
> > > always making it available in /proc, and marking the control file for
> > > dynamic_debug in debugfs as deprecated?  It would seem to me that this
> > > would cause less confusion in the future....
> > 
> > Why deprecate it?  It's fine where it is, and most developer's have
> > debugfs enabled so all is good.  I'd rather only use /proc as a
> > last-resort.
> 
> This makes life difficult for scripts that manipulate the control
> file, since they now need to check two different locations -- either
> /sys/kernel/debug or /proc.

That is literally 2 extra lines in a script file.  If you point me at
any that actually used the existing control file, I will be glad to fix
them up :)

> It's likely that people who normally use
> distribution kernels where debugfs is disabled will have scripts which
> are hard-coded to look in /proc, and then when they build a kernel
> with debugfs enabled, the /proc entry will go **poof**, and their
> script will break.

**poof** they didn't test it :)

Seriously, I am doing this change to make it _easier_ for those people
who want debugfs disabled, yet want this type of debugging.  This is
much better than having no debugging at all.

Don't put extra complexity in the kernel for when it can be trivially
handled in userspace, you know this :)

thanks,

greg k-h