Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750810AbWBBLjY (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Feb 2006 06:39:24 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750836AbWBBLjY (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Feb 2006 06:39:24 -0500 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:37795 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750810AbWBBLjY (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Feb 2006 06:39:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 12:39:11 +0100 From: Pavel Machek To: Pekka Enberg Cc: Nigel Cunningham , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [ 01/10] [Suspend2] kernel/power/modules.h Message-ID: <20060202113911.GF1884@elf.ucw.cz> References: <20060201113710.6320.68289.stgit@localhost.localdomain> <200602012245.06328.nigel@suspend2.net> <84144f020602010501k23e7898at82c0f231a2da0ad4@mail.gmail.com> <200602020730.16916.nigel@suspend2.net> <84144f020602011345i2e395336s371786c441b9f5b2@mail.gmail.com> <20060202100646.GC1981@elf.ucw.cz> <84144f020602020257g72bda32bkc3d6264495bea2aa@mail.gmail.com> <20060202110235.GE1884@elf.ucw.cz> <84144f020602020316x1a996f74u8099df2696c716b4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <84144f020602020316x1a996f74u8099df2696c716b4@mail.gmail.com> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1232 Lines: 31 On Čt 02-02-06 13:16:40, Pekka Enberg wrote: > Hi, > > On St 01-02-06 23:45:15, Pekka Enberg wrote: > > > So what's the plan for short-term? Are userspace suspend and suspend > > > modules mutually exclusive or can they co-exist? > > On 2/2/06, Pavel Machek wrote: > > They can coexist for as long as neccessary. (At one point, it was even > > possible to suspend using userland code, then resume using kernel code > > :-). > > > > When I found out noone is really using kernel code any more (2.8.0 or > > something), I'd like to get rid of it. > > So are you saying we should pursue merging Suspend2 bits in the > mainline and deprecate it when userspace is mature enough and has all > the same features? Seems counter-productive but then again I am mostly > clueless of suspend issues. No, I'm saying that suspend2 bits should be moved into userspace. That way we get mature userspace much faster, without any big merge into kernel. Pavel -- Thanks, Sharp! - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/