Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751181AbWBBUT4 (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Feb 2006 15:19:56 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751182AbWBBUT4 (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Feb 2006 15:19:56 -0500 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:26856 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751181AbWBBUTz (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Feb 2006 15:19:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 21:19:43 +0100 From: Pavel Machek To: Bill Davidsen Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: CD writing - related question Message-ID: <20060202201943.GB2264@elf.ucw.cz> References: <43DEA195.1080609@tmr.com> <20060201210433.GC8552@ucw.cz> <43E2602C.2090008@tmr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <43E2602C.2090008@tmr.com> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1793 Lines: 49 On Čt 02-02-06 14:40:28, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Pavel Machek wrote: > >On Mon 30-01-06 18:30:29, Bill Davidsen wrote: > > > >>Please take this as a question to elicit information, not > >>an invitation for argument. > >> > >>In Linux currently: > >>SCSI - liiks like SCSI > >>USB - looks like SCSI > >>Firewaire - looks like SCSI > >>SATA - looks like SCSI > >>Compact flash and similar - looks like SCSI > > > > > >Your definition of "looks like scsi" is way too broad. CF looks like > >PCMCIA and that in turn is ide chip on isa-like bus. > > > >(unless you plug it to usb reader) > > > I was unaware of any serious use of PCMCIA reader cards therese days, as > you note the CD shows up as an sd device. I have a laptop which might > have a card slot, if it takes CD I'll pull one from my camera and try it > there instead of the USB reader. CD? Did you want to say CF? Anyway it is not really PCMCIA reader. It is just PCMCIA-to-CF adapter, plugged into PCMCIA slot. Adapter is pretty much passive. > The question is still why not make all devices look like SCSI, and use > one set of drivers and a bit of glue. Redhat used to use ide-scsi by > default if my memory serves, and the overhead wasn't an issue even back > on my 1st Linux laptop running Slackware on a Thinkpad 486-25 (the fat > one, not the 486-16 -;). CF card is as much ide as it can get. You can even pug it to IDE cable with passive adapter! Forcing everything to SCSI makes about as much sense as making everything look like IDE. Pavel -- Thanks, Sharp! - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/