Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932206AbWBCJ52 (ORCPT ); Fri, 3 Feb 2006 04:57:28 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932240AbWBCJ52 (ORCPT ); Fri, 3 Feb 2006 04:57:28 -0500 Received: from mailhub.fokus.fraunhofer.de ([193.174.154.14]:34288 "EHLO mailhub.fokus.fraunhofer.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932206AbWBCJ51 (ORCPT ); Fri, 3 Feb 2006 04:57:27 -0500 From: Joerg Schilling Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:55:16 +0100 To: xavier.bestel@free.fr, schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de Cc: oliver@neukum.org, mrmacman_g4@mac.com, matthias.andree@gmx.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jerome.lacoste@gmail.com, jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de, James@superbug.co.uk, j@bitron.ch, acahalan@gmail.com Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Message-ID: <43E32884.nail5CA1O92YA@burner> References: <787b0d920601241858w375a42efnc780f74b5c05e5d0@mail.gmail.com> <43DF3C3A.nail2RF112LAB@burner> <5a2cf1f60601310424w6a64c865u590652fbda581b06@mail.gmail.com> <200601311333.36000.oliver@neukum.org> <1138867142.31458.3.camel@capoeira> <43E1EAD5.nail4R031RZ5A@burner> <1138880048.31458.31.camel@capoeira> <43E20047.nail4TP1PULVQ@burner> <1138885334.31458.42.camel@capoeira> In-Reply-To: <1138885334.31458.42.camel@capoeira> User-Agent: nail 11.2 8/15/04 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1755 Lines: 39 Xavier Bestel wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 13:51, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > Xavier Bestel wrote: > > > Well ... from your sayings it seems Linux is supported by HAL but not by > > > libscg. > > > > Libscg is _the_ HAL for cdrecord. It is availaible the same way as today since > > 10 years. > > I understand your point, but believe me, *nobody* wants one HAL per > application. There need to be only one HAL for all, and as freedesktop's > HAL has the functionnality necessary for cdrecord (minus perhaps a few If people don't want this confusion, why do they start with a new system? libscg & cdrecord have been available long before Linux HAL was there. And the most important argument here is that it is extremely unlikely that this Linux HAL will handle all oddities of all CD/DVD-writers, do it is unapropriate to use this interface in case that you like to get more information than just "the drive is there". Note that UNIX people usually believe that is is best practice to have this kind of software intergrated in the kernel (or at leat in the system). This is what FreeBSD did try for some years, and FreeBSD has failed with this attempt. J?rg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/