Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932382AbWBCLWI (ORCPT ); Fri, 3 Feb 2006 06:22:08 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932451AbWBCLWI (ORCPT ); Fri, 3 Feb 2006 06:22:08 -0500 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:30169 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932382AbWBCLWH (ORCPT ); Fri, 3 Feb 2006 06:22:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:21:30 +0100 From: Pavel Machek To: Andrew Morton Cc: nigel@suspend2.net, torvalds@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [ 00/10] [Suspend2] Modules support. Message-ID: <20060203112130.GG2830@elf.ucw.cz> References: <20060201113710.6320.68289.stgit@localhost.localdomain> <200602022131.59928.nigel@suspend2.net> <20060202115907.GH1884@elf.ucw.cz> <200602022214.52752.nigel@suspend2.net> <20060202152316.GC8944@ucw.cz> <20060202132708.62881af6.akpm@osdl.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20060202132708.62881af6.akpm@osdl.org> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1656 Lines: 38 On Čt 02-02-06 13:27:08, Andrew Morton wrote: > Pavel Machek wrote: > > Random thoughts: > > - swsusp has been a multi-year ongoing source of churn and bug reports. > It hasn't been a big success and we have a way to go yet. You don't get the success reports, only bug reports. It tends to work these days. I don't get success reports, too, but I'm not flooded with bugreports for distribution, either. (And actually see people using suspend2/swsusp). > - People seem to be doing too much development on the swsusp core and not > enough development out where the actual problems are: drivers which don't > suspend and resume correctly. We only started developing swsusp core again at 11/2005. Problem with drivers is that I mostly do not have affected hardware. [Okay, there are some problems with Core Duo I can reproduce here, smp-only, but the machine is flakey, anyway, so it will take some time.] > - If you want my cheerfully uninformed opinion, we should toss both of > them out and implement suspend3, which is based on the kexec/kdump > infrastructure. There's so much duplication of intent here that it's not > funny. And having them separate like this weakens both in the area where > the real problems are: drivers. I thought about it (at around 11/2005), but loosing 8+ MB of ram, permanently, is perhaps too big price to pay? Pavel -- Thanks, Sharp! - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/