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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id w207si2805810oia.226.2020.02.06.15.35.38; Thu, 06 Feb 2020 15:35:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@nvidia.com header.s=n1 header.b="Bn2ol/VU"; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=nvidia.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727162AbgBFXee (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 6 Feb 2020 18:34:34 -0500 Received: from hqnvemgate25.nvidia.com ([216.228.121.64]:19144 "EHLO hqnvemgate25.nvidia.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726502AbgBFXed (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Feb 2020 18:34:33 -0500 Received: from hqpgpgate102.nvidia.com (Not Verified[216.228.121.13]) by hqnvemgate25.nvidia.com (using TLS: TLSv1.2, DES-CBC3-SHA) id ; Thu, 06 Feb 2020 15:34:08 -0800 Received: from hqmail.nvidia.com ([172.20.161.6]) by hqpgpgate102.nvidia.com (PGP Universal service); Thu, 06 Feb 2020 15:34:33 -0800 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by hqpgpgate102.nvidia.com on Thu, 06 Feb 2020 15:34:33 -0800 Received: from [10.110.48.28] (10.124.1.5) by HQMAIL107.nvidia.com (172.20.187.13) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1473.3; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 23:34:32 +0000 Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: fix a data race in put_page() To: Qian Cai , Jan Kara CC: David Hildenbrand , , , , , , References: <20200206145501.GD26114@quack2.suse.cz> From: John Hubbard X-Nvconfidentiality: public Message-ID: <079c4429-8a11-154d-cf5c-473d2698d18d@nvidia.com> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 15:34:32 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Originating-IP: [10.124.1.5] X-ClientProxiedBy: HQMAIL105.nvidia.com (172.20.187.12) To HQMAIL107.nvidia.com (172.20.187.13) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nvidia.com; s=n1; t=1581032048; bh=NbgCRtQwz/ScWw7YmhxlSz2dIjnhpyzO4fLkgwkbp8Y=; h=X-PGP-Universal:Subject:To:CC:References:From:X-Nvconfidentiality: Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To: X-Originating-IP:X-ClientProxiedBy:Content-Type:Content-Language: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Bn2ol/VUcsiqpFfCO9n7dT/7s3gzXDQIIm2hCC+iXL3/blWk/EbG7fElAM7PFI8Vk xEtBbe5EIsh3A7lnBWku9wGJXlqCEZfE8sRwOYW1gJ6Fk2i8A0pwczgX5U+9mJtsnG ewSCLQKl5el1Pi+780JoNPBihzPL21JP5m+wWD/6XySCIdSCM8riyLk29ivsOOp0Cl /JVCU0VfQhUesumQZu+n9zvKyYkrKANbJQskmO+5iZ+21SrNLS8o8pWkSqpZzeIjM8 rfM8IOEIU7mE7iOrC+kpjQfIl8Iehr038pfh07tRHoMR6rnsHYilep6IweN+KtEJZ2 LbJD3xb9+I0Kg== Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 2/6/20 7:23 AM, Qian Cai wrote: > > >> On Feb 6, 2020, at 9:55 AM, Jan Kara wrote: >> >> I don't think the problem is real. The question is how to make KCSAN happy >> in a way that doesn't silence other possibly useful things it can find and >> also which makes it most obvious to the reader what's going on... IMHO >> using READ_ONCE() fulfills these targets nicely - it is free >> performance-wise in this case, it silences the checker without impacting >> other races on page->flags, its kind of obvious we don't want the load torn >> in this case so it makes sense to the reader (although a comment may be >> nice). > > Actually, use the data_race() macro there fulfilling the same purpose too, i.e, silence the splat here but still keep searching for other races. > Yes, but both READ_ONCE() and data_race() would be saying untrue things about this code, and that somewhat offends my sense of perfection... :) * READ_ONCE(): this field need not be restricted to being read only once, so the name is immediately wrong. We're using side effects of READ_ONCE(). * data_race(): there is no race on the N bits worth of page zone number data. There is only a perceived race, due to tools that look at word-level granularity. I'd propose one or both of the following: a) Hope that Marcus has an idea to enhance KCSAN so as to support this model of access, and/or b) Add a new, better-named macro to indicate what's going on. Initial bikeshed-able candidates: READ_RO_BITS() READ_IMMUTABLE_BITS() ...etc... thanks, -- John Hubbard NVIDIA