From: "Jim Crilly" <jim@why.dont.jablowme.net>
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:28:29 -0500
To: Joerg Schilling <schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>
Cc: peter.read@gmail.com, matthias.andree@gmx.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest)
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On 02/08/06 02:27:41PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> "Jim Crilly" <jim@why.dont.jablowme.net> wrote:
> 
> > All you've explained is that using SCSI ID for device names is the way
> > you want cdrecord to work, not why it's infinitely better than using real
> > device names like every other userland program on every OS in existance.
> 
> I did many times, but people don't seem to listen.

But you've never answered the question as to why every other userland
program on every OS uses device names when cdrecord insists on using SCSI
IDs. Do you really think mount, fsck, tar, etc are broken because they let
the user use device names that they're accustomed to like /dev/c0t0d0s0? If
so, I look forward to the day that you try to patch OpenSolaris' userland
to work like cdrecord. 

> > The people replying here are your users, if you don't want to listen to
> > them pretty much any conversation with you will be a waste of time.
> 
> Sorry, but from reading the mail from _real_ cdrecord users, it is obvious
> that the people here are either not my users or users with a stange way of 
> thinking.

I think it's safe to say that most Linux users are cdrecord users whether
they want to be or not, there's just not any real viable alternatives
except for dvd+rw-tools and they don't work with regular CDs AFAIK.

And if you consider it strange to expect tools to accept normal device
names for the devices they're interacting with, I guess there's not much
hope of ever getting cdrecord fixed.

Jim.
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