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McKenney" To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com, mingo@kernel.org, jiangshanlai@gmail.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, josh@joshtriplett.org, tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org, dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com, joel@joelfernandes.org Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 1/3] rcu-tasks: *_ONCE() for rcu_tasks_cbs_head Message-ID: <20200218202226.GJ2935@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> Reply-To: paulmck@kernel.org References: <20200215002446.GA15663@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> <20200215002520.15746-1-paulmck@kernel.org> <20200217123851.GR14914@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20200217181615.GP2935@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> <20200218075648.GW14914@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20200218162719.GE2935@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> <20200218201142.GF11457@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200218201142.GF11457@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 09:11:42PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 08:27:19AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 08:56:48AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > > I just took offence at the Changelog wording. It seems to suggest there > > > actually is a problem, there is not. > > > > Quoting the changelog: "Not appropriate for backporting due to failure > > being unlikely." > > That implies there is failure, however unlikely. > > In this particular case there is absolutely no failure, except perhaps > in KCSAN. This patch is a pure annotation such that KCSAN can understand > the code. > > Like said, I don't object to the actual patch, but I do think it is > important to call out false negatives or to describe the actual problem > found. I don't feel at all comfortable declaring that there is absolutely no possibility of failure. Thanx, Paul