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From:   Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Date:   Fri, 21 Feb 2020 14:28:50 +0100
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/5] sched/pelt: Add a new runnable average signal
To:     Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
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        Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
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On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 at 11:40, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 10:25:27AM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 at 10:04, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 04:11:18PM +0000, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> > > > On 20/02/2020 14:36, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > > > > I agree that setting by default to SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE is too much
> > > > > for little core.
> > > > > The problem for little core can be fixed by using the cpu capacity instead
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > So that's indeed better for big.LITTLE & co. Any reason however for not
> > > > aligning with the initialization of util_avg ?
> > > >
> > > > With the default MC imbalance_pct (117), it takes 875 utilization to make
> > > > a single CPU group (with 1024 capacity) overloaded (group_is_overloaded()).
> > > > For a completely idle CPU, that means forking at least 3 tasks (512 + 256 +
> > > > 128 util_avg)
> > > >
> > > > With your change, it only takes 2 tasks. I know I'm being nitpicky here, but
> > > > I feel like those should be aligned, unless we have a proper argument against
> > > > it - in which case this should also appear in the changelog with so far only
> > > > mentions issues with util_avg migration, not the fork time initialization.
> > > >
> > >
> > > So, what is the way forward here? Should this patch be modified now,
> > > a patch be placed on top or go with what we have for the moment that
> > > works for symmetric CPUs and deal with the asym case later?
> > >
> > > I do not have any asym systems at all so I've no means of checking
> > > whether there is a problem or not.
> >
> > I'm going to send a new version at least for patch 4 and 5 using
> > cpu_scale as initial value and fixing update_sg_wakeup_stats()
> >
>
> No problem. FWIW, when I see them, I'll slot them in and rerun the tests
> as the previous results will be invalidated. Obviously the asym case will

I have just sent the new version.
Thanks for testing

> not be tested by me but I imagine you or Valentin have that covered.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Mel Gorman
> SUSE Labs