From: Sebastian =?iso-8859-1?q?K=FCgler?= <sebas@kde.org>
To: suspend2-devel@lists.suspend2.net
Subject: Re: Which is simpler? (Was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: [ 00/10] [Suspend2] Modules support.)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 01:16:51 +0100
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On Saturday 11 February 2006 00:35, Pavel Machek wrote:
> So another flamewar is over, good. I even received one apology ;-),
> and probably should have sent some apologies, too...
[...]
> version. How you could help?
>
> * testing is useful at this point. Few confirmations that it works in
> different configurations would make us feel warm and fuzzy.
>
> * documentation improvements, and small scripts. Having script that
> prepares initrd would be nice, for example.
>
> * having someone to maintain suspend.sf.net web pages / release CVS
> snapshot as package would help, too.
>
> * userspace code improvements. Encryption, LZW and graphical progress
> should be reasonably easy to do. There's some tricky stuff, if you
> prefer -- support for swap files and normal files would help,
> too. Plus I guess everyone has their favourite feature...

That all makes sense.

To make uswsusp a success you need it tested [T], supporting scripts [S],=20
someone [B] who puts work in the webpages [W] with decent documentation [D]=
,=20
and a bunch of spiffy features [F].

[T] * http://wiki.suspend2.net/FeatureUserRegister=20
    * http://www.suspend2.net/lists
[S] http://www.suspend2.net/downloads/all/hibernate-script-1.12.tar.gz
[B] Bernard Blackham, b-swweb@blackham.com.au
[W] http://www.suspend2.net
[D] * http://www.suspend2.net/links
    * http://www.suspend2.net/HOWTO
    * http://www.suspend2.net/FAQ
[F] http://www.suspend2.net/features

I, as a contributors to suspend2, have been working on all that stuff for=20
about two-and-a-half years, and it makes me really sad to see that someone =
in=20
a position to make a decision towards progress wants to start that whole=20
process all over, rather than acknowledging the existance of a technical=20
superior solution - including a well-functioning supporting community - and=
=20
working towards getting this solution available for a wider audience.

Judging from experience, uswsusp is probably two years away until it can ev=
en=20
come close to what suspend2 offers right now, and that would be the ideal=20
case of having a lot of people helping in the progress, involving being=20
actively involved and dedicated to fixing problems.
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sebas

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