Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751192AbWBLQ5e (ORCPT ); Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:57:34 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751207AbWBLQ5e (ORCPT ); Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:57:34 -0500 Received: from h80ad24f1.async.vt.edu ([128.173.36.241]:51097 "EHLO h80ad24f1.async.vt.edu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751192AbWBLQ5d (ORCPT ); Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:57:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200602121656.k1CGurd7019092@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.1-RC3 To: Kyle Moffett Cc: Alon Bar-Lev , Jan Merka , Pavel Machek , suspend2-devel@lists.suspend2.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Flames over -- Re: Which is simpler? (Was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: [ 00/10] [Suspend2] Modules support.) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:32:44 EST." <47B33C16-AEC3-4036-BA05-AE235014684E@mac.com> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu References: <20060201113710.6320.68289.stgit@localhost.localdomain> <200602101337.22078.rjw@sisk.pl> <20060210233507.GC1952@elf.ucw.cz> <200602111136.56325.merka@highsphere.net> <43EEF711.2010409@gmail.com> <43833C9D-40A2-42B3-83D9-3C9D3EB7C434@mac.com> <43EF24C0.2040902@gmail.com> <47B33C16-AEC3-4036-BA05-AE235014684E@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1139763412_14753P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:56:52 -0500 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1418 Lines: 38 --==_Exmh_1139763412_14753P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:32:44 EST, Kyle Moffett said: > and X when sleeping? Don't you *dare* say "somebody could attach a > hardware debugger and read your data out of RAM", because I just > don't see that happening in any reasonable situation, there are too > many obstacles to doing that with a _laptop_, the first of which is > just that it's impossible to take the damn thing apart when it's on > without disconnecting massive amounts of critical wiring. No need to take anything apart if that laptop has a FireWire port on the outside. See Quinn's Firestarter that won best hack at MacHack 2002. http://www.quinn.echidna.id.au/Quinn/WWW/Hacks.html#FireStarter No need to crack the case at all. And it isn't a Mac-only issue - it's the way FireWire works. --==_Exmh_1139763412_14753P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQFD72jUcC3lWbTT17ARAiPUAKCcJNfAe/MIc/Rp+wDE53i1tY+hGACeIKFY lQIS6AimkY1VHNNoBnO1p/Q= =vTQ2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1139763412_14753P-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/