Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751270AbWBMNmN (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Feb 2006 08:42:13 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751705AbWBMNmN (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Feb 2006 08:42:13 -0500 Received: from mailhub.fokus.fraunhofer.de ([193.174.154.14]:22474 "EHLO mailhub.fokus.fraunhofer.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750938AbWBMNmM (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Feb 2006 08:42:12 -0500 From: Joerg Schilling Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:40:47 +0100 To: schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de, dhazelton@enter.net Cc: peter.read@gmail.com, mj@ucw.cz, matthias.andree@gmx.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jim@why.dont.jablowme.net, jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Message-ID: <43F08C5F.nailKUSDKZUAZ@burner> References: <20060208162828.GA17534@voodoo> <200602090757.13767.dhazelton@enter.net> <43EC8F22.nailISDL17DJF@burner> <200602092221.56942.dhazelton@enter.net> In-Reply-To: <200602092221.56942.dhazelton@enter.net> User-Agent: nail 11.2 8/15/04 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1507 Lines: 37 "D. Hazelton" wrote: > > Name a single program (not using libscg) that implements user space SCSI > > and runs on as many platforms as cdrecord/libscg does. > > I'm not the maintainer of a program, and hence I don't have to. > > But why in the hell do you even _need_ SCSI in userspace when the kernel > provides complete facilities? And even then your argument is specious, since Then please try to inform yourself in order to understand that you are wrong. libscg abstracts from a kernel specific transport and allows to write OS independent applications that rely in generic SCSI transport. For this reason, it is bejond the scope of the Linux kernel team to decide on this abstraction layer. The Linux kernel team just need to take the current libscg interface as given as _this_ _is_ the way to do best abstraction. The Linux kernel team has the freedom to boycott portable user space SCSI applications or to support them. J?rg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/