From: Joerg Schilling <schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:29:37 +0100
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Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest)
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Martin Mares <mj@ucw.cz> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> > libscg abstracts from a kernel specific transport and allows to write OS 
> > independent applications that rely in generic SCSI transport.
> > 
> > For this reason, it is bejond the scope of the Linux kernel team to decide on 
> > this abstraction layer. The Linux kernel team just need to take the current
> > libscg interface as given as _this_  _is_ the way to do best abstraction.
>
> Do you really believe that libscg is the only way in the world how to
> access SCSI devices?
>
> How can you be so sure that the abstraction you have chosen is the only
> possible one?
>
> If an answer to either of this questions is NO, why do you insist on
> everybody bending their rules to suit your model?

Name me any other lib that is as OS independent and as clean/stable as
libscg is. Note that the interface from libscg did not really change 
since August 1986. 


> > The Linux kernel team has the freedom to boycott portable user space SCSI 
> > applications or to support them.
>
> That's really an interesting view ... if anybody is boycotting anybody,
> then it's clearly you, because you refuse to extend libscg to support
> the Linux model, although it's clearly possible.

Looks like you did not follow the discussion :-(

I am constantly working on better support for Linux while the Linux kernel
folks do not even fix obvious bugs.

J?rg

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