Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030269AbWBMXRe (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:17:34 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030271AbWBMXRe (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:17:34 -0500 Received: from smtp.enter.net ([216.193.128.24]:58887 "EHLO smtp.enter.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030269AbWBMXRd (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:17:33 -0500 From: "D. Hazelton" To: Joerg Schilling Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:26:39 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 Cc: matthias.andree@gmx.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20060208162828.GA17534@voodoo> <20060213135240.GD10566@merlin.emma.line.org> <43F0A298.nailKUSW190PU@burner> In-Reply-To: <43F0A298.nailKUSW190PU@burner> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200602131826.40281.dhazelton@enter.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1333 Lines: 27 On Monday 13 February 2006 10:15, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Matthias Andree wrote: > > > For this reason, it is bejond the scope of the Linux kernel team to > > > decide on this abstraction layer. The Linux kernel team just need to > > > take the current libscg interface as given as _this_ _is_ the way to > > > do best abstraction. > > > > This is ridiculous. The abstraction (SG_IO on an open special file) is > > in the kernel. Feel free to stack as many layers on top as you wish, but > > the kernel isn't going to bend just to support a random abstraction > > library that cannot achieve its goals in its current form anyways. > > Try to inform yourself on the difference between an IOCTL and a /dev/ > entry. I believe he did make the distinction there. He states "The abstraction (SG_IO on an open special file) is in the kernel." An "open special file" could be anything, but in this case it's meant to refer to a /dev/ entry. The point he made is valid, and it appears that in this case, Joerg, you are the one who is "technically uninformed". DRH - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/