Received: by 2002:a25:c205:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id s5csp989079ybf; Fri, 28 Feb 2020 11:33:52 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzfihG/5UXJQK/E23MHTzGTuKzdfxB/QLErSPsax5xXwotG85humfgMdTg8HprPzLfQcBpD X-Received: by 2002:a9d:c63:: with SMTP id 90mr3244143otr.330.1582918432431; Fri, 28 Feb 2020 11:33:52 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1582918432; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=sOYZi+FhZAvDvRaAH0WgpC4INzHNJugrbaI96y5GyvI014lx4RzDu7YzJ7tTTXuTtL zHuC8GVjI8+IdxWMrLoHyIp6sEn97vdpKYHPOeDiuvT9YUmfJJfR/wPrrmXDeO6mVCEQ 3ByVw7wavt/hOnT8JU8o+LY6CTpYjh1Rz8lqw8BQzCSdguYcz2rU97wHAAst52eSiNZM AeLkm/LQd36WU/D9q44WOa48dlIEjJd7Wf5bneiROM5zNPTOehhWqdWGlgb1DPxPukI1 E4CdTMRb/EpCbaMSYgXBt+nSyL85dfA5kW0Kurvj/KaatUPiJ2EwKnZW3Bv0geKIDeNv fOKw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:in-reply-to:content-disposition :mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=nkhyJ0BN4hOtIdUujUy8Nwu1hJOJm6Z4wSH9qEjkmK4=; b=wrtmuAUw6k4bovCsPvrMwqmE+59BVUwG+0lmlMsfA7vawTV3mHfpFG/ViZvOJ6DjE3 pANnw9hrsHPew5tVGpU2MNl+LT32kXAaK7aNqa1exhQhlCpXXKOpDKeZThFN45Xi6Gc8 SRXASdUWpYyNaSiRr1czlUzwFTEXlfkrZZGuf+LY1CMOLTzpXjNiVnVOAjAzw8Q5CFFM KkRgs1tmt+P5c0gMuTlSWHJXagzrgwbyDJjdcK7K2rZNgJ645K8ClxsI8gHdsncvFBfO H+yuCkSOa5b77M1oAbrZLQ4x0Y30umunzLYkZvyFnpXBISxQVbuAj9gJgZqavcww0rGi qFng== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id s15si279468otq.216.2020.02.28.11.33.23; Fri, 28 Feb 2020 11:33:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726603AbgB1TdN (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 28 Feb 2020 14:33:13 -0500 Received: from outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu ([18.9.28.11]:56969 "EHLO outgoing.mit.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725769AbgB1TdN (ORCPT ); Fri, 28 Feb 2020 14:33:13 -0500 Received: from callcc.thunk.org (guestnat-104-133-8-109.corp.google.com [104.133.8.109] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 01SJWnWV026369 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 28 Feb 2020 14:32:50 -0500 Received: by callcc.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id 9D0D1421A71; Fri, 28 Feb 2020 14:32:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 14:32:48 -0500 From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" To: Matthew Wilcox Cc: Ian Kent , Andreas Dilger , Waiman Long , Alexander Viro , Jonathan Corbet , Luis Chamberlain , Kees Cook , Iurii Zaikin , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Linux FS Devel , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Mauro Carvalho Chehab , Eric Biggers , Dave Chinner , Eric Sandeen Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] fs/dcache: Limit # of negative dentries Message-ID: <20200228193248.GE101220@mit.edu> References: <20200226161404.14136-1-longman@redhat.com> <20200226162954.GC24185@bombadil.infradead.org> <2EDB6FFC-C649-4C80-999B-945678F5CE87@dilger.ca> <9d7b76c32d09492137a253e692624856388693db.camel@themaw.net> <20200228033412.GD29971@bombadil.infradead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200228033412.GD29971@bombadil.infradead.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 07:34:12PM -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > The canonical argument in favour of negative dentries is to improve > application startup time as every application searches the library path > for the same libraries. The other canonical example is C compilers that need to search for header files along the include search path: % strace -o /tmp/st -f gcc -o /tmp/hello /tmp/hello.c -I.. -I../.. % grep open /tmp/st | grep stdio.h | grep ENOENT | wc -l 6 - Ted