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Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.16-rc3
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On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 07:28:38PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
 > Michal Jaegermann <michal@harddata.com> wrote:
 > >
 > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 09:57:48AM +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
 > > > On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 00:12 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
 > > > > 
 > > > > I think we can assume that it will be seen there.  2.6.16 is going into
 > > > > distros and will have more exposure than 2.6.15, 
 > > > 
 > > > 2.6.15 went into distros as well, such as Fedora Core 4 ;)
 > > 
 > > And promptly broke laptop suspension.  See, for example:
 > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=180998
 > > 
 > 
 > That's suspend-to-disk, yes?
 > 
 > Dave, would you have the 2.6.15-1.1830_FC4 -> 2.6.15-1.1831_FC4 details
 > handy?  There surely can't be much difference?

Tiny changes.
- The icmp remote DoS fix.
- Dropped a patch that broke booting with 'quiet' bootparam
- the 'dm_crypt: zero key before freeing it' change

 > There seem to be several ACPI problems there.  Do we have a reliable means
 > of feeding such reports up into the (for example) acpi developers?
 > 
 > <I have this vaguely unsettled feeling that distros must get more bug
 > reports than the usptream developers, yet we hear so little about it>

I'd love more hours in the day to push more of them upstream, as
I bet would other vendors kernel maintainers.

Should anyone want to drink from the firehose that is 'redhat kernel bugzilla',
let me know, and I'll see if I can't get a fedora-kernel-bugs mailing
list or the like set up.

Some subsystem maintainers (ACPI for example) really help out here,
and add acpi-bugzilla@list.sourceforge.net to all the Fedora ACPI bugs.
(I believe that list actually gets bug reports from other distro bugzillas too)

(There's also a few 'meta-bugs' -- enter FCMETA_ACPI as a bug id
and you get a link to a dependancy tree showing all the ACPI bugs
reported. There's a bunch of those for various subsystems which
makes it a little easier to track, though again, it's time-consuming
just sorting through stuff).  Off the top of my head, theres one
for USB, SCSI, ACPI, ALSA, SATA (All with FCMETA_ prefix)
Some of them are a bit sparse due to lack of time & effort so far.
		
		Dave

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