Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:09:36 +1100
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest)
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On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 04:29:37PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Martin Mares <mj@ucw.cz> wrote:
>=20
> > Hello!
> >
> > > libscg abstracts from a kernel specific transport and allows to write=
 OS=20
> > > independent applications that rely in generic SCSI transport.
> > >=20
> > > For this reason, it is bejond the scope of the Linux kernel team to d=
ecide on=20
> > > this abstraction layer. The Linux kernel team just need to take the c=
urrent
> > > libscg interface as given as _this_  _is_ the way to do best abstract=
ion.
> >
> > Do you really believe that libscg is the only way in the world how to
> > access SCSI devices?
> >
> > How can you be so sure that the abstraction you have chosen is the only
> > possible one?
> >
> > If an answer to either of this questions is NO, why do you insist on
> > everybody bending their rules to suit your model?
>=20
> Name me any other lib that is as OS independent and as clean/stable as
> libscg is. Note that the interface from libscg did not really change=20
> since August 1986.=20

off the top of my head the standard C library been fairly stable

>=20
>=20
> > > The Linux kernel team has the freedom to boycott portable user space =
SCSI=20
> > > applications or to support them.
> >
> > That's really an interesting view ... if anybody is boycotting anybody,
> > then it's clearly you, because you refuse to extend libscg to support
> > the Linux model, although it's clearly possible.
>=20
> Looks like you did not follow the discussion :-(
>=20
> I am constantly working on better support for Linux while the Linux kernel
> folks do not even fix obvious bugs.
>=20
> J?rg
>=20
> --=20
>  EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Be=
rlin
>        js@cs.tu-berlin.de                (uni) =20
>        schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de     (work) Blog: http://schily.blogs=
pot.com/
>  URL:  http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/s=
chily
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