Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030526AbWBNJUc (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Feb 2006 04:20:32 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030527AbWBNJUc (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Feb 2006 04:20:32 -0500 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz ([195.113.31.123]:18917 "EHLO atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030526AbWBNJUb (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Feb 2006 04:20:31 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:20:30 +0100 From: Martin Mares To: Marcin Dalecki Cc: Joerg Schilling , jerome.lacoste@gmail.com, peter.read@gmail.com, matthias.andree@gmx.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jim@why.dont.jablowme.net, jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de, dhazelton@enter.net Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Message-ID: References: <20060208162828.GA17534@voodoo> <20060210114721.GB20093@merlin.emma.line.org> <43EC887B.nailISDGC9CP5@burner> <200602090757.13767.dhazelton@enter.net> <43EC8F22.nailISDL17DJF@burner> <5a2cf1f60602100738r465dd996m2ddc8ef18bf1b716@mail.gmail.com> <43F06220.nailKUS5D8SL2@burner> <2D9D57EA-1197-4965-82ED-61DEAF73D9F9@neostrada.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2D9D57EA-1197-4965-82ED-61DEAF73D9F9@neostrada.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1938 Lines: 41 Hello! > This claim is a bit surprising since only, but the most irrelevant > stuff from the dust bin of history, doesn't define a world global > unique id those days. That's unfortunately not true -- many USB devices don't have a usable serial number. Also, if I have a single device of its kind, let's say a USB mouse, I really want to call it "The Mouse" and I don't want to reconfigure anything if I plug it to a different port or replace it with a slightly different mouse. All mice are considered equivalent by the user as there is no reason to distinguish between them. The same applies to CD burners -- as long as I have only one (which is still the most common situation), I shouldn't have to think about how to call it. Let it be just /dev/cdrw. When I get multiple such devices, things start getting interesting, but there is no single naming strategy which fits all uses. For example, if I have two USB ports into which I connect USB disks various people bring to me, it's convenient to call them "left" and "right", because the serial number doesn't mean anything to me if I haven't seen the device before. On the other hand, if I connect my own drives, it makes sense to call them by their serial numbers or something like that. I think that it's clear from all this, that device naming is a matter of policy and that the best the OS can do is to give the users a way how to specify their policy, which is what udev does. Have a nice fortnight -- Martin `MJ' Mares http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mj/ Faculty of Math and Physics, Charles University, Prague, Czech Rep., Earth P.C.M.C.I.A. stands for `People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms' - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/