Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:01:46 +0100
From: Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>
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Subject: Re: Device enumeration (was Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest))
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On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 03:45:46PM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 12:00:23AM +0100, Olivier Galibert wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 02:24:28PM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> > > Because if you have to have udev push the names back into the kernel,
> > > why not just ask udev in the first place what they were?
> > 
> > Because there is no reason to think udev of 2008 will be compatible
> > with today's udev given udev's history.  And that's provided udev is
> > still in use at that time.
> 
> Just like gnome and kde of 2008 will not be compatible with the gnome
> and kde of today.

If history is a guide, it will.  KDE is harder because the C++ as
implemented in gcc has changed in the meantime, so things that were
correct-ish two years ago aren't anymore and the libraries aren't
binary-compatible with the older gccs, but in the gtk/gnome case I
have programs I wrote in 1999 that still compile and work as is.  And
in the X case, I have programs from before linux existed that still
compile and work as is.  So I'm not sure what your point is here.


> > > Again, use HAL, not udev for this stuff.  FC3 is also out of date for
> > > lots of things becides udev, so why refer to it?
> > 
> > Because it proves you don't give a shit about backwards compatibility.
> 
> *plonk*

Truth hurts?

  OG.
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