Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750889AbWBOSbS (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:31:18 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751230AbWBOSbR (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:31:17 -0500 Received: from perpugilliam.csclub.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.134.31]:5264 "EHLO perpugilliam.csclub.uwaterloo.ca") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750889AbWBOSbR (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:31:17 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:31:15 -0500 To: Rob Landley Cc: Matthias Andree , Linux-Kernel mailing list Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Message-ID: <20060215183115.GE29940@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> References: <5a2cf1f60602130407j79805b8al55fe999426d90b97@mail.gmail.com> <200602141751.02153.rob@landley.net> <20060215000420.GB21088@merlin.emma.line.org> <200602142155.03407.rob@landley.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200602142155.03407.rob@landley.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1508 Lines: 26 On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 09:55:03PM -0500, Rob Landley wrote: > The last gasp of the SCSI bigots is Serial Attached Scsi. It's hilarious. > Electrically it's identical (they just gold-plate the connectors and such so > they can charge more for it). The giveaway is that you can plug a SATA drive > into a SAS controller and it works on "dual standard" controller firmware. > Which one's going to have the unit volume to be cheap and sell through its > inventory to bring out new generations faster? And which one is exactly the > same technology with buckets of hype, slightly different firmware, and a huge > markup for the people who still think that because ISA sucked, its designated > successor PCI can't be trusted? SAS is actually a lot more complex than SATA. SAS drives are dual ported, so you can connect them to two controllers at once. Makes redundant systems much simpler to build if you can connect each physical drive to two places at once. They support port expanders (which SATA seems to be starting to support although more limited). You can run SATA drives on an SAS controller, but of course you don't get dual port. You can not run SAS drives on an SATA controller however. SATA is essentially a subset of SAS. Len Sorensen - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/