Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751392AbWBPRp7 (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:45:59 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751391AbWBPRp7 (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:45:59 -0500 Received: from dspnet.fr.eu.org ([213.186.44.138]:37125 "EHLO dspnet.fr.eu.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751390AbWBPRp6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:45:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:45:57 +0100 From: Olivier Galibert To: Bill Davidsen Cc: Kyle Moffett , Jens Axboe , Albert Cahalan , Linux Kernel Mailing List , rmatthias.andree@gmx.de Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Message-ID: <20060216174557.GC62333@dspnet.fr.eu.org> Mail-Followup-To: Olivier Galibert , Bill Davidsen , Kyle Moffett , Jens Axboe , Albert Cahalan , Linux Kernel Mailing List , rmatthias.andree@gmx.de References: <787b0d920601241923k5cde2bfcs75b89360b8313b5b@mail.gmail.com> <20060125144543.GY4212@suse.de> <20060125153057.GG4212@suse.de> <20060127080026.GR4311@suse.de> <43DE98B9.6010008@tmr.com> <74B203F5-441F-4953-A95D-FEA162700876@mac.com> <43F4A632.8000500@tmr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43F4A632.8000500@tmr.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1179 Lines: 25 On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 11:20:02AM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > I was really talking about something stable. HAL is an application, and > as such has to be changed avery time some developer has a bad dream and > changes the interface, moves a comtrol or report from /proc to /sys, or > otherwise requires a new way of interpreting the data. If you will, HAL > *in* the kernel where it must work. Sorry, the era of stability is over. Anything older than a year and half or so is obsolete and should be upgraded. To their honor Linus, Andrew and a small minority of others tried to keep stability as important, but given that the vast majority of the other developpers don't care they lost. For the kernel that means syscalls are stable, but everything filesystem isn't (proc and sysfs in particular) and change on a whim, and also ioctls, especially on vonluntarily undocumented kernel interfaces, are rather unstable. OG. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/