Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030584AbWBPTuw (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:50:52 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030619AbWBPTuw (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:50:52 -0500 Received: from rumms.uni-mannheim.de ([134.155.50.52]:49850 "EHLO rumms.uni-mannheim.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030584AbWBPTuv (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:50:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:49:56 +0100 To: opensuse-factory@opensuse.org Cc: Greg KH , torvalds@osdl.org, kkeil@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, libusb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] Re[2]: 2.6.16 serious consequences / GPL_EXPORT_SYMBOL / USB drivers of major vendor excluded Message-ID: <20060216194955.GM3595@schiele.dyndns.org> Mail-Followup-To: Robert Schiele , opensuse-factory@opensuse.org, Greg KH , torvalds@osdl.org, kkeil@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, libusb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net References: <20060205205313.GA9188@kroah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YS7t75H5cNTCpbja" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Robert Schiele Reply-To: Robert Schiele Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2451 Lines: 63 --YS7t75H5cNTCpbja Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 03:24:44PM +0100, Sven Schmidt wrote: > The user space does not ensure the reliability of time critical analog > services like Fax G3 or analog modem emulations. This quality of service > can only be guaranteed within the kernel space. Huh? You are offering your fax emulation at ftp://ftp.avm.de/fritz.box/tools/fax4box/ for Windows to communicate over Ethernet with the Fritz!Box. You don't tell me that communicating over Ethernet is more reliable than implementing it in user space? Or is my understanding about how this tool is working completely wrong? > As a private corporation our primary focus is market relevance. AVM > invested more than 10 years of work to make analog services like Fax G3 a= nd > analog modem emulation available to users of the digital ISDN network. The > situation is similar for the DSL part of the driver with very complex DSP > algorithms. To anticipate any "open vs. closed source" discussion:Only a > handful of companies worldwide have such know-how. With regard to our > competitive situation, we have to protect our hard-won intellectual > property and therefore cannot open the closed source part of the driver. It is perfectly understandable that you don't want to offer this special know-how in public. But isn't your implementation modular enough to open source the drivers _without_ support for these analog services as a first step? This driver could then be shipped without problems enabling your use= rs to download a more advanced closed source module from your web site if desi= red and you don't care about the license issues. Robert --=20 Robert Schiele Tel.: +49-621-181-2214 Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:rschiele@uni-mannheim.de "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur." --YS7t75H5cNTCpbja Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFD9NdjxcDFxyGNGNcRAtZ1AKC7wMK0N6rUmfNvTGPI96g3ayHNqwCfYCBv ZzQGkhrM/7CcjVrNcm58Sjk= =AwgG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YS7t75H5cNTCpbja-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/