Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750710AbWBQMBX (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Feb 2006 07:01:23 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751400AbWBQMBX (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Feb 2006 07:01:23 -0500 Received: from albireo.ucw.cz ([84.242.65.108]:53635 "EHLO albireo.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750710AbWBQMBX (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Feb 2006 07:01:23 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:01:23 +0100 From: Martin Mares To: Joerg Schilling Cc: dhazelton@enter.net, matthias.andree@gmx.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Message-ID: References: <43EB7BBA.nailIFG412CGY@burner> <20060216115204.GA8713@merlin.emma.line.org> <43F4BF26.nail2KA210T4X@burner> <200602161742.26419.dhazelton@enter.net> <43F5B686.nail2VCA2A2OF@burner> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43F5B686.nail2VCA2A2OF@burner> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1322 Lines: 30 Hello! > Sorry, the way to access SCSI generic via /dev/hd* is deprecated. By whom? > ir removed, then a clean and orthogonal way of accessing SCSI in a generic > way is removed from Linux. If Linux does nto care about orthogonality of > interfaces, this is a problem of the people who are responbile for the related > interfaces. You open any SCSI device, you do SG_IO on it. What is non-orthogonal in that? Yes, I agree with you that it's hard to do device discovery, but discovering devices is completely orthogonal to doing I/O in them and it's also not a problem specific to SCSI devices at all. Hence we want to find a general solution suitable for *all* devices and that's what sysfs, udev and HAL are for. They might have some rough edges yet, but they definitely solve the right problem. Have a nice fortnight -- Martin `MJ' Mares http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mj/ Faculty of Math and Physics, Charles University, Prague, Czech Rep., Earth "In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they are different." -- Larry McVoy - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/