Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750746AbWBSC5R (ORCPT ); Sat, 18 Feb 2006 21:57:17 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750756AbWBSC5R (ORCPT ); Sat, 18 Feb 2006 21:57:17 -0500 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.197]:62158 "EHLO zproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750746AbWBSC5Q (ORCPT ); Sat, 18 Feb 2006 21:57:16 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=N7JRuTWm4qWArfoZ7XK9YotdRnxdlW9Oo1M03S0Cn2UJxykyEiuoPrGBsW7euvW4SCEOPbKV3RcZmrWMgPh34b1k7g3nhkkO1RPXeoSrolQVC56T20jnfIm/rkXX8x7XAGtizlvgJ2Rpj/1eWgO38wlnLPqUCzOTXj1GAOqjd28= Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 06:57:16 +0200 From: Sasha Khapyorsky To: s.schmidt@avm.de Cc: Greg KH , torvalds@osdl.org, kkeil@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, opensuse-factory@opensuse.org, libusb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: 2.6.16 serious consequences / GPL_EXPORT_SYMBOL / USB drivers of major vendor excluded Message-ID: <20060219045716.GA9880@khap> References: <20060205205313.GA9188@kroah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1532 Lines: 30 On 15:24 Thu 16 Feb , s.schmidt@avm.de wrote: > We are pleased to note that the GPL_EXPORT_SYMBOL fix has been withdrawn. > This is particularly important for customers who have been relying on good > driver coverage for ISDN/DSL devices with SUSE distributions over the past > few years. However, as we understand the ongoing discussion, a number of > people are tending towards a position of enforcement of USB GPL drivers > only. We would like to take this opportunity to clarify where we see the > differences between AVM and other devices and the difficulties regarding a > possible move towards user mode. > > The user space does not ensure the reliability of time critical analog > services like Fax G3 or analog modem emulations. This quality of service > can only be guaranteed within the kernel space. Soft modems may work pretty well in userspace - slmodem is example. Real-time requirement for V.34 is 40ms response time and only once during the session when echo canceller parameters are negotiatiated (so you may decrease "buffer size" before and increase after - there are enouph silence places for such manipulations). Fax itself does not require any "realtime" AFAIK, other place is almost unused today V.32 - 26ms, also for echo canceller setup. Regards, Sasha. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/