Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030184AbWBTMb2 (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Feb 2006 07:31:28 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030185AbWBTMb2 (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Feb 2006 07:31:28 -0500 Received: from dspnet.fr.eu.org ([213.186.44.138]:38405 "EHLO dspnet.fr.eu.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030184AbWBTMb1 (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Feb 2006 07:31:27 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:31:22 +0100 From: Olivier Galibert To: kernel list Subject: Re: Which is simpler? (Was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: [ 00/10] [Suspend2] Modules support.) Message-ID: <20060220123122.GA6086@dspnet.fr.eu.org> Mail-Followup-To: Olivier Galibert , kernel list References: <20060201113710.6320.68289.stgit@localhost.localdomain> <20060220093911.GB19293@kobayashi-maru.wspse.de> <1140430269.3429.8.camel@mindpipe> <200602202041.02085.nigel@suspend2.net> <1140437152.3429.20.camel@mindpipe> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1140437152.3429.20.camel@mindpipe> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1255 Lines: 27 On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 07:05:52AM -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > My point was simply that "we need this now" is not a good argument for > immediate merging - I was not trying to imply that you aren't working > fast enough ;-) What about "we need this two years ago" ? I'm having a really hard time convincing myself that Pavel and friends, while rather good as developpers, haven't succumbed to a bad case of NIH syndrome. Even with wanting to move as many things to userspace as possible, merging suspend2 with cleanups if necessary, _then_ starting from there to move things to userspace seems more realistic long-term. Right now it really looks like they're only trying to redo what's already in suspend2, tested and debugged, only different and new, hence untested and undebugged. The only thing I've seen that is really against suspend2 is the amount of code it adds to the kernel. Given that said code is actively maintained, moving what can be moved to userspace can easily be done afterwards. OG. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/