Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1161048AbWBTRKc (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:10:32 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1161050AbWBTRKc (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:10:32 -0500 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:3741 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161048AbWBTRKb (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:10:31 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:10:00 +0100 From: Pavel Machek To: Olivier Galibert , Nigel Cunningham , Matthias Hensler , Sebastian Kgler , kernel list , rjw@sisk.pl Subject: Re: suspend2 review [was Re: Which is simpler? (Was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: [ 00/10] [Suspend2] Modules support.)] Message-ID: <20060220171000.GF19156@elf.ucw.cz> References: <20060201113710.6320.68289.stgit@localhost.localdomain> <200602200709.17955.nigel@suspend2.net> <20060219234212.GA1762@elf.ucw.cz> <200602201210.58362.nigel@suspend2.net> <20060220124937.GB16165@elf.ucw.cz> <20060220170537.GB33155@dspnet.fr.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060220170537.GB33155@dspnet.fr.eu.org> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1338 Lines: 30 On Po 20-02-06 18:05:37, Olivier Galibert wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 01:49:37PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > > Yep, if you do it all in userspace, this vanishes. 340 lines down. > > > > > > And you gain? Let's try not to be too biased :). > > > > I gain 340 less lines to review. For me to review, for akpm to review, > > and for Linus to review. That's important. > > Pavel, if you mean that the userspace code will not be reviewed to > standards the kernel code is, kill uswsusp _NOW_ before it does too > much damage. Unreliable suspend eats filesystems for breakfast. The > other userspace components of the kernels services are either optional > (udev) or not that important (alsa). At least it will be only me reviewing it, and not akpm and Linus. suspend2 received no such review, and still people claim it is reliable. "I wish they'd kill suspend2 project, it already did enough damage." (Half joking here, but suspend2 split user/development community, and that's not good). Pavel -- Web maintainer for suspend.sf.net (www.sf.net/projects/suspend) wanted... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/