From: "D. Hazelton" <dhazelton@enter.net>
To: Joerg Schilling <schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>
Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:40:29 -0500
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On Monday 20 February 2006 11:41, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> "D. Hazelton" <dhazelton@enter.net> wrote:
> > > Part of the problem is J?rg's expecting a solution the day before
> > > yesterday.
> >
> > Well, from some comments he made in private mails he seems to think he
> > was promised (by Linus, no less) that the DMA problems in ide-scsi were
> > going to be fixed. Instead the module was deprecated and SG_IO was
> > introduced - this seems to be one of the things he's been angry about.
>
> Even you have become a victim of the trolls :-(

Never a victim. I stick my nose where I choose - in this case I stuck it in 
here because I had hoped to turn a discussion I saw descending into a 
flamewar into something productive.

> SG_IO was used in ide-scsi a long time before it was needlessly introduced
> on top of /dev/hd*

Needlessly? Not true. It was missing from the layer, as all modern ATA devices 
do support some form of ATAPI, which is, as you've so frequently pointed out, 
a form of SCSI. So why is an unneeded thing to introduce the ability to use 
that full capacity?

And here I must parrot Martin Mares - you complain about problems when not 
using ide-scsi but almost all the bugs you've mentioned only occur when using 
ide-scsi. Now, I'll go and finish replying to all the other mails that have 
come into my inbox (on this thread) and not been sorted down because they 
were directly to me.

DRH
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