Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964871AbWBUWCx (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:02:53 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964868AbWBUWCx (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:02:53 -0500 Received: from mustang.oldcity.dca.net ([216.158.38.3]:48600 "HELO mustang.oldcity.dca.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S964871AbWBUWCx (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:02:53 -0500 Subject: Re: suspend2 review [was Re: Which is simpler? (Was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: [ 00/10] [Suspend2] Modules support.)] From: Lee Revell To: Olivier Galibert Cc: Pavel Machek , Nigel Cunningham , Matthias Hensler , Sebastian Kgler , kernel list , rjw@sisk.pl In-Reply-To: <20060220170537.GB33155@dspnet.fr.eu.org> References: <20060201113710.6320.68289.stgit@localhost.localdomain> <200602200709.17955.nigel@suspend2.net> <20060219234212.GA1762@elf.ucw.cz> <200602201210.58362.nigel@suspend2.net> <20060220124937.GB16165@elf.ucw.cz> <20060220170537.GB33155@dspnet.fr.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:02:45 -0500 Message-Id: <1140559365.2742.80.camel@mindpipe> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.5.91 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 955 Lines: 22 On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 18:05 +0100, Olivier Galibert wrote: > Pavel, if you mean that the userspace code will not be reviewed to > standards the kernel code is, kill uswsusp _NOW_ before it does too > much damage. Unreliable suspend eats filesystems for breakfast. The > other userspace components of the kernels services are either optional > (udev) or not that important (alsa). > Why is sound less important than suspending, or networking, or any other subsystem? This is an insult to everyone who worked long and hard to get decent sound support on Linux. This attitude is why many distro's sound support is godawful. Sometimes I suspect they are testing on machines without speakers connected. Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/