Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1422633AbWBVA0J (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:26:09 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1161287AbWBVA0I (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:26:08 -0500 Received: from smtp.osdl.org ([65.172.181.4]:62423 "EHLO smtp.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161286AbWBVA0H (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:26:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:21:04 -0800 From: Andrew Morton To: Kay Sievers Cc: penberg@cs.helsinki.fi, gregkh@suse.de, bunk@stusta.de, rml@novell.com, torvalds@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, johnstul@us.ibm.com Subject: Re: 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions Message-Id: <20060221162104.6b8c35b1.akpm@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: <20060222000429.GB12480@vrfy.org> References: <20060217231444.GM4422@stusta.de> <84144f020602190306o3149d51by82b8ccc6108af012@mail.gmail.com> <20060219145442.GA4971@stusta.de> <1140383653.11403.8.camel@localhost> <20060220010205.GB22738@suse.de> <1140562261.11278.6.camel@localhost> <20060221225718.GA12480@vrfy.org> <20060221153305.5d0b123f.akpm@osdl.org> <20060222000429.GB12480@vrfy.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1185 Lines: 32 Kay Sievers wrote: > > > We broke back-compatibility. The changelog _failed to tell us_ that we > > were breaking back-compatibility. The patch wouldn't have been applied if > > we'd been told that. At least, not without a lot of careful thought. > > > > The fact that the changelog failed to tell us this makes one suspect that > > the breakage was inadvertent. > > > > > > So no, upgrading HAL is not a good answer. Please fix the kernel. > > [ bunch of special-pleading ] > None of that matters or is relevant. You took a kernel interface which was present in 2.6.10, 2.6.11, 2.6.12, 2.6.13, 2.6.14 and 2.6.15 and changed it in a non-compatible way, without telling us that it was non-compatible and without even notifying people that we'd gone and broken existing userspace. We. Don't. Do. That. Please either restore the old events so we can have a 6-12 month transition period or revert the patch. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/