Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932197AbWBVQDb (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:03:31 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932248AbWBVQDb (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:03:31 -0500 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:34232 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932197AbWBVQDa (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:03:30 -0500 Subject: Re: 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions From: Arjan van de Ven To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Kay Sievers , Pekka J Enberg , Greg KH , Adrian Bunk , Robert Love , Andrew Morton , Linux Kernel Mailing List , John Stultz In-Reply-To: References: <20060217231444.GM4422@stusta.de> <84144f020602190306o3149d51by82b8ccc6108af012@mail.gmail.com> <20060219145442.GA4971@stusta.de> <1140383653.11403.8.camel@localhost> <20060220010205.GB22738@suse.de> <1140562261.11278.6.camel@localhost> <20060221225718.GA12480@vrfy.org> <20060222152743.GA22281@vrfy.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:03:07 +0100 Message-Id: <1140624187.2979.38.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 780 Lines: 22 On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 07:44 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: [snip lots of good words about that breaking userspace ABIs is really horrible] I absolutely agree with what you say. HOWEVER hal is also terminally broken. The thing they depend on is a *config option*. If they can't deal with that config option not being enabled in a graceful way, that's a series malfunction. (and no this is not an excuse for breaking userspace ABIs at all, although one can argue that this removing is almost the same as disabling the config option) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/