Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1161073AbWBVRRU (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:17:20 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030317AbWBVRRU (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:17:20 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.de ([213.165.64.20]:60606 "HELO mail.gmx.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1030315AbWBVRRT (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:17:19 -0500 X-Authenticated: #428038 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:17:14 +0100 From: Matthias Andree To: Christoph Hellwig , Arjan van de Ven , Linus Torvalds , Kay Sievers , Pekka J Enberg , Greg KH , Adrian Bunk , Robert Love , Andrew Morton , Linux Kernel Mailing List , John Stultz Subject: sysfs regressions (was: 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions) Message-ID: <20060222171714.GC19733@merlin.emma.line.org> Mail-Followup-To: Christoph Hellwig , Arjan van de Ven , Linus Torvalds , Kay Sievers , Pekka J Enberg , Greg KH , Adrian Bunk , Robert Love , Andrew Morton , Linux Kernel Mailing List , John Stultz References: <20060219145442.GA4971@stusta.de> <1140383653.11403.8.camel@localhost> <20060220010205.GB22738@suse.de> <1140562261.11278.6.camel@localhost> <20060221225718.GA12480@vrfy.org> <20060222152743.GA22281@vrfy.org> <1140624187.2979.38.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060222161133.GA18059@infradead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060222161133.GA18059@infradead.org> X-PGP-Key: http://home.pages.de/~mandree/keys/GPGKEY.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1411 Lines: 30 Christoph Hellwig schrieb am 2006-02-22: > And to continue the rant: the broken mount uevent feature (which > can't work right) got in without any serious review through the > driver model tree. just as all those break udev/etc patches that > cause all these userland breakages for those people brave enough > to use udev and surrounding bits. > > Folks, we need to stop breaking sysfs interface all the time. Having > attributes on objects is real nice from many perspectives, but it's > also a burden because the internal object model is now seen by the > outside world. That means anything involving sysfs needs a careful > design not random patching as the driver model core people appear to > do. Oh, and while we're at it: perhaps someone should revert the patch that caused Douglas Gilbert to chase incompatible sysfs changes in his user-space applications. It's pretty sad to see random breakage, apparently by randomly changing / to : in paths from what I discern from Doug's Changelog. (No, I don't have the background handy, neither would I care; I just see the application chasing sysfs changes, and that's enough to complain.) -- Matthias Andree - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/