Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1161171AbWBVSJN (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:09:13 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1161258AbWBVSJN (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:09:13 -0500 Received: from MAIL.13thfloor.at ([212.16.62.50]:6797 "EHLO mail.13thfloor.at") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161171AbWBVSJL (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:09:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:09:10 +0100 From: Herbert Poetzl To: Adrian Bunk Cc: Samuel Masham , Jan Engelhardt , Dmitry Torokhov , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, Andrew Morton Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] make INPUT a bool Message-ID: <20060222180909.GA16738@MAIL.13thfloor.at> Mail-Followup-To: Adrian Bunk , Samuel Masham , Jan Engelhardt , Dmitry Torokhov , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, Andrew Morton References: <20060217163802.GI4422@stusta.de> <93564eb70602191933x2a20ce0m@mail.gmail.com> <20060220132832.GF4971@stusta.de> <20060222013410.GH20204@MAIL.13thfloor.at> <20060222023121.GB4661@stusta.de> <20060222024438.GI20204@MAIL.13thfloor.at> <20060222031001.GC4661@stusta.de> <20060222120121.GA5650@MAIL.13thfloor.at> <20060222121542.GE4661@stusta.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060222121542.GE4661@stusta.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2528 Lines: 66 On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 01:15:42PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 01:01:21PM +0100, Herbert Poetzl wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 04:10:01AM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > >... > > > Except for the X86_P4_CLOCKMOD case, all of your examples are correct > > > usages of EMBEDDED. > > > > ahem, well, then I'm definitely doing something > > wrong when I disable the VGA console on my 2GB > > servers, as "there's no reason to enable EMBEDDED > > when building a kernel for systems with > 50 MB RAM" > > > > sorry, I kind of disagree here, this might be useful > > for embedded systems, but it is definitely useful > > for other systems as well ... at least I do not like > > the 'assumption' that every system with >50MB has > > to have a VGA console ... > > > > I agree that the 0815 distro will not need this and > > it can be hidden behind some option ... > > It's not assumed that every system with > 50 MB has a VGA console. > > These are options where accidentially disabling only causes problems > for the majority of users. > > You can enable EMBEDDED on your 2 GB servers if you really want > to save a few bytes in the kernel, but OTOH I doubt there is much > practival value in reducing the kernel for a system with 2 GB RAM by a > few kB. it is not the size I care about, it is the missing/disabled vga hardware (and serial console) that I care about, but what the hell, you consider it EMBEDDED and I don't. period. nevertheless folks put all kind of stuff under EMBEDDED because they _think_ it actually means _SPECIALIST_ or _EXPERT_ and just is bad namimg ... that's something which IMHO should be clarified, and if it is just by adding another Kconfig option which does that > > best, > > Herbert > >... > > cu > Adrian > > -- > > "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out > of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. > "Only a promise," Lao Er said. > Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/