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DMA to/from but yet it does >>>> not appear in the system as a normal memory and therefore requires >>>> special handling anyway (O_DIRECT or DAX, I do not know the exact >>>> mechanics). All other devices in the system should just run as usual, >>>> i.e. use 1:1 mapping if possible. >>> >>> On other systems (x86 and arm) pmem as long as it is page backed does >>> not require any special handling. This must be some weird way powerpc >>> fucked up again, and I suspect you'll have to suffer from it. >> >> >> It does not matter if it is backed by pages or not, the problem may also >> appear if we wanted for example p2p PCI via IOMMU (between PHBs) and >> MMIO might be mapped way too high in the system address space and make >> 1:1 impossible. > > How can it be mapped too high for a direct mapping with a 64-bit DMA > mask? The window size is limited and often it is not even sparse. It requires an 8 byte entry per an IOMMU page (which is most commonly is 64k max) so 1TB limit (a guest RAM size) is a quite real thing. MMIO is mapped to guest physical address space outside of this 1TB (on PPC). -- Alexey