Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932118AbWBWUbJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:31:09 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932113AbWBWUbI (ORCPT ); Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:31:08 -0500 Received: from kanga.kvack.org ([66.96.29.28]:45704 "EHLO kanga.kvack.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932118AbWBWUbI (ORCPT ); Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:31:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:26:06 -0500 From: Benjamin LaHaise To: Greg KH Cc: Arjan van de Ven , Gabor Gombas , "Theodore Ts'o" , Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Kay Sievers , penberg@cs.helsinki.fi, bunk@stusta.de, rml@novell.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, johnstul@us.ibm.com Subject: Re: 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions Message-ID: <20060223202606.GB30329@kvack.org> References: <20060222112158.GB26268@thunk.org> <20060222154820.GJ16648@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> <20060222162533.GA30316@thunk.org> <20060222173354.GJ14447@boogie.lpds.sztaki.hu> <20060222185923.GL16648@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> <20060222191832.GA14638@suse.de> <1140636588.2979.66.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060222194024.GA15703@suse.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060222194024.GA15703@suse.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1274 Lines: 27 On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 11:40:24AM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > I totally agree. Distros are changing into two different groups these > days: > - everything tied together and intregrated nicely for a specific > kernel version, userspace tool versions, etc. > - flexible and works with multiple kernel versions, different > userspace tools, etc. > > Distros in the first category are the "enterprise" releases (RHEL, SLES, > etc.), as well as some consumer oriented distros (SuSE, Ubuntu, Fedora > possibly.) That is a completely unreasonable position. It is a requirement for those of us working on a variety of problems to be able to use new kernels on the "Enterprise" distributions in the market, as you have to be able to compare regressions and performance. Swapping out all of userland just because hotplug can't get it's act together is *NOT* an option. -ben -- "Ladies and gentlemen, I'm sorry to interrupt, but the police are here and they've asked us to stop the party." Don't Email: . - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/